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		By: Jason		</title>
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		By: Pops Horpern		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[Gabby is the prisoner and almost the entire movie occurs in *her* mind.  The only scenes of &quot;reality&quot; are (1) the opening scene in the cafe, (2) the brief scene of Gabby in her cell just after Frank&#039;s second escape, and maybe (3) the scene of human-voice Howard setting up in the control room (might make sense if the real prison had a human Howard instead of AI).  Here&#039;s how things unfold in this interpretation of the movie:

In real life, Gabby is a barista and she witnessed a random dude in her coffee shop get tasered.  Then she got arrested herself because ISN mistakenly thought she was an accomplice, and she is now locked in a cell and never sees another human again.  After being in solitary for a while she wonders about the random dude, decides his name is Frank and probably also in prison somewhere, and starts weaving an elaborate story that she inserts herself into, to stave off loneliness.  Why would there be a comfy chair in Frank&#039;s cell?  Because Gabby made it up. Remember she wanted her cafe to be a comfortable place for patrons, so her imaginary cell for Frank has a comfy chair.  During the quick scene of Gabby in *her* cell, as the camera shot widens, notice there is no chair, because in reality prison cells aren&#039;t comfortable.
  
She begins to lose her own grip on reality as it turns into a love story between them.  Gabby is sad because her imaginary friend Frank would rather kill himself than stay with her in their imaginary world.  But in the end she figures out how to keep Frank happy and spend time with him by reintroducing herself as Madeline.

The biggest clue? The song at the end over the credits, about being trapped in a place where she doesn&#039;t belong.  The lyrics are from a woman&#039;s point-of-view.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gabby is the prisoner and almost the entire movie occurs in *her* mind.  The only scenes of &#8220;reality&#8221; are (1) the opening scene in the cafe, (2) the brief scene of Gabby in her cell just after Frank&#8217;s second escape, and maybe (3) the scene of human-voice Howard setting up in the control room (might make sense if the real prison had a human Howard instead of AI).  Here&#8217;s how things unfold in this interpretation of the movie:</p>
<p>In real life, Gabby is a barista and she witnessed a random dude in her coffee shop get tasered.  Then she got arrested herself because ISN mistakenly thought she was an accomplice, and she is now locked in a cell and never sees another human again.  After being in solitary for a while she wonders about the random dude, decides his name is Frank and probably also in prison somewhere, and starts weaving an elaborate story that she inserts herself into, to stave off loneliness.  Why would there be a comfy chair in Frank&#8217;s cell?  Because Gabby made it up. Remember she wanted her cafe to be a comfortable place for patrons, so her imaginary cell for Frank has a comfy chair.  During the quick scene of Gabby in *her* cell, as the camera shot widens, notice there is no chair, because in reality prison cells aren&#8217;t comfortable.</p>
<p>She begins to lose her own grip on reality as it turns into a love story between them.  Gabby is sad because her imaginary friend Frank would rather kill himself than stay with her in their imaginary world.  But in the end she figures out how to keep Frank happy and spend time with him by reintroducing herself as Madeline.</p>
<p>The biggest clue? The song at the end over the credits, about being trapped in a place where she doesn&#8217;t belong.  The lyrics are from a woman&#8217;s point-of-view.</p>
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		By: j		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2020 16:44:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Nobody mentioned two things: The Dish Return, they clearly wanted us to notice given the bright colors. Analogous to Howard dispensing 3 flavors - and only 3. With both drinks and meals. Then the chair - when they pan back from the view of the map on the wall over his bed, notice the chair in the left corner is the same chair (seemingly) that&#039;s in the Infinity Chamber. So yes, I believe those who say he&#039;s in a coma or similar are correct, and that to me sends that very message just before his 1st escape. Great movie - I like the article author watched every minute of it, and I don&#039;t usually watch movies like this. It just...works. The movie, imagery, dialog, directing...acting. The sound needs some work (vocals are garbled from Gabby in the scene prior to the escape) but overall I think there was a great deal of talent on that team.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nobody mentioned two things: The Dish Return, they clearly wanted us to notice given the bright colors. Analogous to Howard dispensing 3 flavors &#8211; and only 3. With both drinks and meals. Then the chair &#8211; when they pan back from the view of the map on the wall over his bed, notice the chair in the left corner is the same chair (seemingly) that&#8217;s in the Infinity Chamber. So yes, I believe those who say he&#8217;s in a coma or similar are correct, and that to me sends that very message just before his 1st escape. Great movie &#8211; I like the article author watched every minute of it, and I don&#8217;t usually watch movies like this. It just&#8230;works. The movie, imagery, dialog, directing&#8230;acting. The sound needs some work (vocals are garbled from Gabby in the scene prior to the escape) but overall I think there was a great deal of talent on that team.</p>
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		By: Reva Deutsch		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Oct 2019 07:05:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I watched this movie on your recommendation, and it was fantastic!! 
The theory that the entire movie is going on inside the mind of the old man who wishes to die fits beautifully. I think Abby/Madalyn is his wife, who is now deceased. She keeps saying that she took those pictures. Several times in the movie he finds himself confronted with the picture of the tree - representing death, but it&#039;s just a picture meaning he didn&#039;t really get there. At the end of the movie, he finds himself looking at the actual scene of the picture. This time it&#039;s real (real death), or - either he or the computer deluding him into believing he finally achieved death (freedom). And when he stands out there looking at the tree, he is standing in the exact same place that Abby was standing when she took that picture, meaning that she passed this way too (when she died). 
Or did she escape from the infinity room too?? This movie has so many possibilities. 
Thanks for all the great reviews.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I watched this movie on your recommendation, and it was fantastic!!<br />
The theory that the entire movie is going on inside the mind of the old man who wishes to die fits beautifully. I think Abby/Madalyn is his wife, who is now deceased. She keeps saying that she took those pictures. Several times in the movie he finds himself confronted with the picture of the tree &#8211; representing death, but it&#8217;s just a picture meaning he didn&#8217;t really get there. At the end of the movie, he finds himself looking at the actual scene of the picture. This time it&#8217;s real (real death), or &#8211; either he or the computer deluding him into believing he finally achieved death (freedom). And when he stands out there looking at the tree, he is standing in the exact same place that Abby was standing when she took that picture, meaning that she passed this way too (when she died).<br />
Or did she escape from the infinity room too?? This movie has so many possibilities.<br />
Thanks for all the great reviews.</p>
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		By: Ric		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Mar 2019 10:27:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Great interpretation!]]></description>
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		By: Brian		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Mar 2019 08:05:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Frank is on a life support system program he created and he also created a virus to stop it. He’s dealing with should he pull the plug and use the virus to stop the program. The man he see’s on the death bed is not his dad, but himself. Ultimately the system is continuously trying to trick him into forgetting because that’s what it was designed to do. He made a mistake, made a system that kept him alive and now regrets it but becomes insane as the LSO keeps changing his reality. Kinda scary, but I can see AI and AR combined to enhance a VR world created to keep someone alive from dying... in there mind via a program. Hence, he is dead but only alive through the LSO program.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frank is on a life support system program he created and he also created a virus to stop it. He’s dealing with should he pull the plug and use the virus to stop the program. The man he see’s on the death bed is not his dad, but himself. Ultimately the system is continuously trying to trick him into forgetting because that’s what it was designed to do. He made a mistake, made a system that kept him alive and now regrets it but becomes insane as the LSO keeps changing his reality. Kinda scary, but I can see AI and AR combined to enhance a VR world created to keep someone alive from dying&#8230; in there mind via a program. Hence, he is dead but only alive through the LSO program.</p>
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		By: Ric		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ric]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Mar 2019 19:07:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I love the idea of the guy in the hospital being him. That he&#039;s been on life support for 40 years before he finally gives away his secret. But I think that Gabby is his memory of the girl at the cafe, animated by the artificial intelligence, Howard, and that the two fall in love.

Someone else mentioned the possibility that Madeleine is actually another AI, having replaced Howard, perhaps, somehow, which was an interesting idea as well that could warrant further thought...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love the idea of the guy in the hospital being him. That he&#8217;s been on life support for 40 years before he finally gives away his secret. But I think that Gabby is his memory of the girl at the cafe, animated by the artificial intelligence, Howard, and that the two fall in love.</p>
<p>Someone else mentioned the possibility that Madeleine is actually another AI, having replaced Howard, perhaps, somehow, which was an interesting idea as well that could warrant further thought&#8230;</p>
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		By: Ric		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Mar 2019 19:00:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hmmm, I do think he is on life support or an induced coma. He may even have been shot with real bullets under the assumption that he still had the drive on him. I also think that Gabby and the jail cell and all his experiences are a hybrid of the machine&#039;s input and his own imagination. Even the person controlling Howard in the beginning reflects Franks beliefs at that time. In this way Gabby was, at least in part, controlled by the computer which was implanting thoughts into Frank&#039;s imagination. We know Frank had the drive in the morning; this detail we see early on. Perhaps the police knew he had it as well and expected to find it on him when they shot him. Or they discovered this detail themselves during an early &quot;interrogation.&quot; They force him to relive the day starting from the moment they know that he had the drive, up until the moment they shoot him. (You would think with his fixation on the picture they might have had ample enough suspicion to have looked there, but anyway..) When Frank finally admits his true role in the sabotage is when he has given up, and given in. This is why he shows the authorities where he has hidden the drive.

What is up in the air is whether or not Howard A) is sentient, and B) has actually grown to love Frank. I choose to believe both. Howard seems to truly have believed that Frank was innocent, and seems hurt when he says, &quot;You lied to me?&quot; Howard has two prime directives, to keep Frank alive (overt), and to feed him imagery to manipulate him into revealing the location of the drive (covert). Falling in love with Frank is not forbidden. Once Howard&#039;s primary covert objective is satisfied, he is free to continue to fulfill his overt objective of keeping Frank alive, and keeping him company (while enjoying the company of his beloved Frank.)

It seems there were only two major players in Frank&#039;s final day of freedom: his dying father, who he visits in the hospital, and &quot;Gabby.&quot; Or, perhaps the hospital scene is another day - this is not clear. He does speak about his father&#039;s final four years of life as if he has actually already died but I do no not recall him explicitly saying so. The primary holes in this movie&#039;s logic is that, in the interest of finding the drive we might have seen a more detailed following of Frank&#039;s final day of freedom, at least at the beginning of the movie. If his captors somehow knew the drive was hidden in the Cafe, surely they&#039;d have found it without needing such an elaborate form of interrogation. On the other hand, perhaps the machine (Howard) intuited Frank&#039;s attraction for &quot;Gabby&quot; and chose to focus on using her as covert interrogator. 

The ending, according to the above interpretation, is bittersweet. Frank gets to live out the rest of his conscious days exploring a relationship with Howard, who truly loves him, and in a world where he is a kind of hero. But this world is an illusion: in fact Frank has failed and the world has fallen into the tightened grip of the dystopic regime which he had been fighting to topple. 

The final question is whether or not Frank realizes he has failed or not: whether his world is real or not. I think not knowing this detail is the point of the movie, and that we all may think of ourselves as Frank, not knowing whether our lives are real, or not.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmm, I do think he is on life support or an induced coma. He may even have been shot with real bullets under the assumption that he still had the drive on him. I also think that Gabby and the jail cell and all his experiences are a hybrid of the machine&#8217;s input and his own imagination. Even the person controlling Howard in the beginning reflects Franks beliefs at that time. In this way Gabby was, at least in part, controlled by the computer which was implanting thoughts into Frank&#8217;s imagination. We know Frank had the drive in the morning; this detail we see early on. Perhaps the police knew he had it as well and expected to find it on him when they shot him. Or they discovered this detail themselves during an early &#8220;interrogation.&#8221; They force him to relive the day starting from the moment they know that he had the drive, up until the moment they shoot him. (You would think with his fixation on the picture they might have had ample enough suspicion to have looked there, but anyway..) When Frank finally admits his true role in the sabotage is when he has given up, and given in. This is why he shows the authorities where he has hidden the drive.</p>
<p>What is up in the air is whether or not Howard A) is sentient, and B) has actually grown to love Frank. I choose to believe both. Howard seems to truly have believed that Frank was innocent, and seems hurt when he says, &#8220;You lied to me?&#8221; Howard has two prime directives, to keep Frank alive (overt), and to feed him imagery to manipulate him into revealing the location of the drive (covert). Falling in love with Frank is not forbidden. Once Howard&#8217;s primary covert objective is satisfied, he is free to continue to fulfill his overt objective of keeping Frank alive, and keeping him company (while enjoying the company of his beloved Frank.)</p>
<p>It seems there were only two major players in Frank&#8217;s final day of freedom: his dying father, who he visits in the hospital, and &#8220;Gabby.&#8221; Or, perhaps the hospital scene is another day &#8211; this is not clear. He does speak about his father&#8217;s final four years of life as if he has actually already died but I do no not recall him explicitly saying so. The primary holes in this movie&#8217;s logic is that, in the interest of finding the drive we might have seen a more detailed following of Frank&#8217;s final day of freedom, at least at the beginning of the movie. If his captors somehow knew the drive was hidden in the Cafe, surely they&#8217;d have found it without needing such an elaborate form of interrogation. On the other hand, perhaps the machine (Howard) intuited Frank&#8217;s attraction for &#8220;Gabby&#8221; and chose to focus on using her as covert interrogator. </p>
<p>The ending, according to the above interpretation, is bittersweet. Frank gets to live out the rest of his conscious days exploring a relationship with Howard, who truly loves him, and in a world where he is a kind of hero. But this world is an illusion: in fact Frank has failed and the world has fallen into the tightened grip of the dystopic regime which he had been fighting to topple. </p>
<p>The final question is whether or not Frank realizes he has failed or not: whether his world is real or not. I think not knowing this detail is the point of the movie, and that we all may think of ourselves as Frank, not knowing whether our lives are real, or not.</p>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Mar 2019 22:57:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Would seem the life support idea is right, and (gabby) I think is his wife wanting him to find her in the afterlife. Big jump from coffee shop to at his home mapping stuff out and a constant is her. Also the dancing in the film alone and then with her. What he is remembering  is life/ memory’s and Howard is the life support. Escape is death. Maybe the key behind the picture is no longer battling to turn off the machine as he managed to die and get  where he wanted to get too. 
The guy in hospital is him]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Would seem the life support idea is right, and (gabby) I think is his wife wanting him to find her in the afterlife. Big jump from coffee shop to at his home mapping stuff out and a constant is her. Also the dancing in the film alone and then with her. What he is remembering  is life/ memory’s and Howard is the life support. Escape is death. Maybe the key behind the picture is no longer battling to turn off the machine as he managed to die and get  where he wanted to get too.<br />
The guy in hospital is him</p>
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