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		By: Ryan		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ryan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Apr 2021 22:32:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I just watched this movie and WOW! I think it might be my favorite in the vast lot of mind-binder/time travel movies I&#039;ve watched over the last few months.
I understand the timelines and events of the movie, but one thing didn&#039;t come together for me, and that&#039;s how detective Nico in timeline 2 knew to send Vera to the hotel to catch David cheating on (his wife in that timeline) with the nurse.
I saw someone in another forum suggest that (offscreen) detective Nico figured out which David she was talking about as her husband and had him followed. But didn&#039;t Vera meeting detective Nico and them going to find the body (after which he let her escape and gave her the hotel number) all happen in the same night? Maybe not, and I&#039;d have to watch again to be sure on all of that. But if not and the explanation is that simple then that&#039;s a lot of speculation left up to the audience. Idk, you&#039;d think a movie as detailed as this wouldn&#039;t leave any stone unturned. But also maybe in filmmaking sometimes you just gotta pick your battles, as it&#039;s a tedious process...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just watched this movie and WOW! I think it might be my favorite in the vast lot of mind-binder/time travel movies I&#8217;ve watched over the last few months.<br />
I understand the timelines and events of the movie, but one thing didn&#8217;t come together for me, and that&#8217;s how detective Nico in timeline 2 knew to send Vera to the hotel to catch David cheating on (his wife in that timeline) with the nurse.<br />
I saw someone in another forum suggest that (offscreen) detective Nico figured out which David she was talking about as her husband and had him followed. But didn&#8217;t Vera meeting detective Nico and them going to find the body (after which he let her escape and gave her the hotel number) all happen in the same night? Maybe not, and I&#8217;d have to watch again to be sure on all of that. But if not and the explanation is that simple then that&#8217;s a lot of speculation left up to the audience. Idk, you&#8217;d think a movie as detailed as this wouldn&#8217;t leave any stone unturned. But also maybe in filmmaking sometimes you just gotta pick your battles, as it&#8217;s a tedious process&#8230;</p>
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		By: Alan		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2020 18:20:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I just watched this movie on Netflix last night (and it was in English, not Spanish, no subtitles necessary).  Then I came to this website to make sure I understood it. :-)
I think I can answer your questions.  I think Nico did not recognize Vera at first, but her cryptic comment that &quot;you know me, it just hasn&#039;t happened yet&quot; made him realize she was the woman he saw in the TV set when he was 8.  What he told his younger self was to NOT try to find that woman from the TV, because he knew he had to let her marry David and have Gloria with him, and he also knew that his older self would eventually meet Vera when she dug up the bones of Angel&#039;s murdered wife.  And he must have also told his younger self to somehow get rid of the old TV set, so no one could mess with the timeline again!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just watched this movie on Netflix last night (and it was in English, not Spanish, no subtitles necessary).  Then I came to this website to make sure I understood it. :-)<br />
I think I can answer your questions.  I think Nico did not recognize Vera at first, but her cryptic comment that &#8220;you know me, it just hasn&#8217;t happened yet&#8221; made him realize she was the woman he saw in the TV set when he was 8.  What he told his younger self was to NOT try to find that woman from the TV, because he knew he had to let her marry David and have Gloria with him, and he also knew that his older self would eventually meet Vera when she dug up the bones of Angel&#8217;s murdered wife.  And he must have also told his younger self to somehow get rid of the old TV set, so no one could mess with the timeline again!</p>
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		By: Sharon Mitchell		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 01 May 2020 09:42:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This film was fantastic and I really did try getting my head around it LOL.....talk about mind boggling.  I understood most of it, but I was confused with the ending on Timeline 3 - Did Nico recognise Vera as there was a vague smile ?  Did he recognise that she was the Lady from the TV set who warned him to stay in the house when he was a Kid ?  And what would he have told his younger self in Timeline 2 when he connected through the TV and spoke to himself ?  Did he then ask his younger self to destroy the TV ?  So my question is, in Timeline 3, did Nico recollect speaking to Vera in the future ?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This film was fantastic and I really did try getting my head around it LOL&#8230;..talk about mind boggling.  I understood most of it, but I was confused with the ending on Timeline 3 &#8211; Did Nico recognise Vera as there was a vague smile ?  Did he recognise that she was the Lady from the TV set who warned him to stay in the house when he was a Kid ?  And what would he have told his younger self in Timeline 2 when he connected through the TV and spoke to himself ?  Did he then ask his younger self to destroy the TV ?  So my question is, in Timeline 3, did Nico recollect speaking to Vera in the future ?</p>
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		By: Aruthra		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2020 08:42:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I would like to share what I think is the perfect description of the happenings.
The premise of the film is pretty apparent, the Butterfly Effect, which means if you make one small change to an event in the past, it cascades into a substantial turn of events in the future. Mirage has totally three timelines created because of conversations between a person in the future and the past. 
TIMELINE 1:
In 1989, 72-hour electric storm breaks out, and a small boy Nico looking through his room window witnesses a violent scene in the house of his neighbour, Ángel Prieto. He ventures into the house and stumbles on Hilda Weiss, Prieto&#039;s wife, lying dead in the house. Seeing Mr. Prieto with a knife, Nico tries to escape and is accidentally hit by a car on the road. Prieto is arrested and he confesses that he would have buried the body under his butcher-house if he had not got arrested and commits suicide in prison three months later.

Family Story: Aitor, Clara’s son and the bestfriend of Nico (now dead), grows up with his mother, who has been living with the guilt of murder. Years later, Aitor happens to meet Vera on a train, and one day she loses her balance and falls on Aitor. The two become friends, and eventually, Aitor introduces Vera to his buddy David and the two fall in love and get married. David leaves his girlfriend to be with Vera, and Vera quits her preparation to become a neuro-surgeon when she gives birth to their child, Gloria and moves into the house Nico once lived. 

Twenty-five years after Nico’s death, on November 9th 2014, an electrical storm similar to 1989 comes. Vera and David find an old TV set in a storeroom along with a Video Recorder and Cassettes used by Nico earlier. In the night, Vera wakes up and notices that the television is on and a small boy is shown trying to fix the TV connection (similar to what was happening moments before he heard noises from the window in T1). The storm has somehow connected the TV from 2014 to 1989. They both realise and start talking with each other, later she tries to warn Nico not to go out on the road so he does not get hit. This communication creates a new timeline.
TIMELINE 2:
Once inside the house, Nico hides under a bed and watches Angel put Weiss’s body in a suitcase. He also finds Clara’s watch and takes it with him. Nico informs his mother and then the cops. But he’s a young kid, and along with the murder, he mentions the woman from the future on the TV warning him. The police obviously assume that Nico is making up the story to cover up his breaking in and stealing Angel’s watch. Angel, Clara, and Aitor move in together. When Nico had talked to Vera over the television, he had noticed a railway station board that Vera claims to have stolen. Over the years, Nico visits the station hoping that one day he will run into Vera again. And finally, one day, he does. Nico enters the train to sit across Vera (instead of Aitor). When Vera loses her balance, she falls on Nico and not Aitor. Nico and Vera fall in love, and two get married. They don’t have a child, so Vera goes on to become a neuro-surgeon. In T2, Vera doesn’t meet David until he lands up as a patient who she operates on. She shares no other relationship with David, who is married to his girlfriend.

Eventually, on November 9th 2014, the electrical storm appears (remember that its not T1 now), and something bizarre happens. After the earlier conversation, Vera wakes up in her hospital in a parallel timeline to a new reality where no one is aware of the above incidents other than her. The consciousness of Vera from T1 gets written on to Vera from T2.
Vera realizes that she&#039;s not a nurse but a doctor. David is married to someone else. Gloria was never born. She is disturbed and then starts thinking if she can interact with Nico once again then she would be able to correct what she has done wrong. She visits the police and tells them the entire story which is difficult for anyone to believe in. Inspector Leyra (Nico) understands quite well that she’s forgotten her current life because of the storm and the Timeline disruption. He asks some proof which can make him trust her. Vera tells the inspector to dig and look for the body of Ms. Weiss beneath the butcher house. Nico sends Vera to a hotel room where she finds out that David is cheating on his wife with one of the nurses. Nico does this to let Vera know that the man she got married to in T1 wouldn’t have been true to her. Angel and Clara are taken in for questioning where Nico reveals that he was the kid who once testified against Angel. Once the tests on the bones come back, he will have the proof to lock Angel and Clara away. During the interrogation, it is also revealed that Clara accidentally stabbed Weiss in the hustle. 

When Vera visits the given place, she is shocked to find David cheating on his wife with a nurse to whom he met during his surgery. Vera blackmails David, who is a bank employee, for getting information about Nico. She is surprised to find that Inspector Leyra is Nico Lacarte who is in a relationship with her in this reality. Leyra tells her how he prevented her to meet David and Aitor so that he could be with her. Nico meets Vera and explains what has happened in T2. And that it is just a matter of time when they could go back to their lives as husband and wife. Though Vera doesn’t care for David anymore, she still can’t let go of Gloria’s memories. Vera asks Nico to reach out to his past and create a new pathway where he doesn’t grow up with an obsession for her, and then falls off the balcony knowing that he would do what she insisted. Before the storm ends, Nico is forced to set up the TV and talk to himself from 1989. This conversation happens after younger Nico reports the murder to police and returns back home, and sits in front of the TV eagerly waiting for the connection with the women from future happen again. At this moment, the older Nico appears on TV. 
TIMELINE 3:
We aren’t shown what the conversation between the Nicos is, but he gives himself enough instruction so that he never runs into Vera. When the right time will come everything will be in proper order he will meet the lady and Angel will be punished for killing his wife. He convinced his younger self to keep quiet and wait for the right time. In this new Timeline 3, Nico grows old to be an inspector. Nico has not yet met Vera, and she’s married to David and their child Gloria exists. While Vera thinks she is back in T1, this is soon proven wrong because Angel is not in prison but is living with Clara and Aitor. Timeline 3 is a mix of T1 and T2. Vera also confirms that David has been sleeping with the nurse in this new timeline. She now has the combined memories of both T1 and 2. She then calls the police to report a body beneath the butcher-house where she meets Inspector Leyra hoping to start a new relationship with him along with her daughter. The movie ends with Vera saying &quot;You know me, its just that it hasn&#039;t happened yet&quot;. Though not recognizing her initially, Nico smiles at Vera as he realizes that she’s the woman from his television in 1989. We can now assume that the two of them get together, and Angel is sent to jail. 
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Why isn’t there a big age difference between them? 
In 2014, Vera is around 35. In 1989, Nico is 8 years. Because Vera then wakes up in a fresh new timeline, which is in the year 2014, where she is still 35, Nico is now grown up and is 33 years old in 2014.

When Nico decided to fix his past and set up the connection, why didn’t he appear on TV before Vera appears to the younger Nico? 
Because if he did, then we will all miss the future relationship between Vera and Nico in T3.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would like to share what I think is the perfect description of the happenings.<br />
The premise of the film is pretty apparent, the Butterfly Effect, which means if you make one small change to an event in the past, it cascades into a substantial turn of events in the future. Mirage has totally three timelines created because of conversations between a person in the future and the past.<br />
TIMELINE 1:<br />
In 1989, 72-hour electric storm breaks out, and a small boy Nico looking through his room window witnesses a violent scene in the house of his neighbour, Ángel Prieto. He ventures into the house and stumbles on Hilda Weiss, Prieto&#8217;s wife, lying dead in the house. Seeing Mr. Prieto with a knife, Nico tries to escape and is accidentally hit by a car on the road. Prieto is arrested and he confesses that he would have buried the body under his butcher-house if he had not got arrested and commits suicide in prison three months later.</p>
<p>Family Story: Aitor, Clara’s son and the bestfriend of Nico (now dead), grows up with his mother, who has been living with the guilt of murder. Years later, Aitor happens to meet Vera on a train, and one day she loses her balance and falls on Aitor. The two become friends, and eventually, Aitor introduces Vera to his buddy David and the two fall in love and get married. David leaves his girlfriend to be with Vera, and Vera quits her preparation to become a neuro-surgeon when she gives birth to their child, Gloria and moves into the house Nico once lived. </p>
<p>Twenty-five years after Nico’s death, on November 9th 2014, an electrical storm similar to 1989 comes. Vera and David find an old TV set in a storeroom along with a Video Recorder and Cassettes used by Nico earlier. In the night, Vera wakes up and notices that the television is on and a small boy is shown trying to fix the TV connection (similar to what was happening moments before he heard noises from the window in T1). The storm has somehow connected the TV from 2014 to 1989. They both realise and start talking with each other, later she tries to warn Nico not to go out on the road so he does not get hit. This communication creates a new timeline.<br />
TIMELINE 2:<br />
Once inside the house, Nico hides under a bed and watches Angel put Weiss’s body in a suitcase. He also finds Clara’s watch and takes it with him. Nico informs his mother and then the cops. But he’s a young kid, and along with the murder, he mentions the woman from the future on the TV warning him. The police obviously assume that Nico is making up the story to cover up his breaking in and stealing Angel’s watch. Angel, Clara, and Aitor move in together. When Nico had talked to Vera over the television, he had noticed a railway station board that Vera claims to have stolen. Over the years, Nico visits the station hoping that one day he will run into Vera again. And finally, one day, he does. Nico enters the train to sit across Vera (instead of Aitor). When Vera loses her balance, she falls on Nico and not Aitor. Nico and Vera fall in love, and two get married. They don’t have a child, so Vera goes on to become a neuro-surgeon. In T2, Vera doesn’t meet David until he lands up as a patient who she operates on. She shares no other relationship with David, who is married to his girlfriend.</p>
<p>Eventually, on November 9th 2014, the electrical storm appears (remember that its not T1 now), and something bizarre happens. After the earlier conversation, Vera wakes up in her hospital in a parallel timeline to a new reality where no one is aware of the above incidents other than her. The consciousness of Vera from T1 gets written on to Vera from T2.<br />
Vera realizes that she&#8217;s not a nurse but a doctor. David is married to someone else. Gloria was never born. She is disturbed and then starts thinking if she can interact with Nico once again then she would be able to correct what she has done wrong. She visits the police and tells them the entire story which is difficult for anyone to believe in. Inspector Leyra (Nico) understands quite well that she’s forgotten her current life because of the storm and the Timeline disruption. He asks some proof which can make him trust her. Vera tells the inspector to dig and look for the body of Ms. Weiss beneath the butcher house. Nico sends Vera to a hotel room where she finds out that David is cheating on his wife with one of the nurses. Nico does this to let Vera know that the man she got married to in T1 wouldn’t have been true to her. Angel and Clara are taken in for questioning where Nico reveals that he was the kid who once testified against Angel. Once the tests on the bones come back, he will have the proof to lock Angel and Clara away. During the interrogation, it is also revealed that Clara accidentally stabbed Weiss in the hustle. </p>
<p>When Vera visits the given place, she is shocked to find David cheating on his wife with a nurse to whom he met during his surgery. Vera blackmails David, who is a bank employee, for getting information about Nico. She is surprised to find that Inspector Leyra is Nico Lacarte who is in a relationship with her in this reality. Leyra tells her how he prevented her to meet David and Aitor so that he could be with her. Nico meets Vera and explains what has happened in T2. And that it is just a matter of time when they could go back to their lives as husband and wife. Though Vera doesn’t care for David anymore, she still can’t let go of Gloria’s memories. Vera asks Nico to reach out to his past and create a new pathway where he doesn’t grow up with an obsession for her, and then falls off the balcony knowing that he would do what she insisted. Before the storm ends, Nico is forced to set up the TV and talk to himself from 1989. This conversation happens after younger Nico reports the murder to police and returns back home, and sits in front of the TV eagerly waiting for the connection with the women from future happen again. At this moment, the older Nico appears on TV.<br />
TIMELINE 3:<br />
We aren’t shown what the conversation between the Nicos is, but he gives himself enough instruction so that he never runs into Vera. When the right time will come everything will be in proper order he will meet the lady and Angel will be punished for killing his wife. He convinced his younger self to keep quiet and wait for the right time. In this new Timeline 3, Nico grows old to be an inspector. Nico has not yet met Vera, and she’s married to David and their child Gloria exists. While Vera thinks she is back in T1, this is soon proven wrong because Angel is not in prison but is living with Clara and Aitor. Timeline 3 is a mix of T1 and T2. Vera also confirms that David has been sleeping with the nurse in this new timeline. She now has the combined memories of both T1 and 2. She then calls the police to report a body beneath the butcher-house where she meets Inspector Leyra hoping to start a new relationship with him along with her daughter. The movie ends with Vera saying &#8220;You know me, its just that it hasn&#8217;t happened yet&#8221;. Though not recognizing her initially, Nico smiles at Vera as he realizes that she’s the woman from his television in 1989. We can now assume that the two of them get together, and Angel is sent to jail.<br />
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<p>Why isn’t there a big age difference between them?<br />
In 2014, Vera is around 35. In 1989, Nico is 8 years. Because Vera then wakes up in a fresh new timeline, which is in the year 2014, where she is still 35, Nico is now grown up and is 33 years old in 2014.</p>
<p>When Nico decided to fix his past and set up the connection, why didn’t he appear on TV before Vera appears to the younger Nico?<br />
Because if he did, then we will all miss the future relationship between Vera and Nico in T3.</p>
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		By: Barbie.c		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Apr 2020 05:21:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Nico could have been around age of 10-13 or but younger in 1989, and in 2014 (25 years in future ) he’d b sum where in his 30s. While Vera is prob on her early 20s , she prob could been born a year after 1989 or a lil after. But since she has a daughter and stopped mid her med school career. She’s prob in her early 20s]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nico could have been around age of 10-13 or but younger in 1989, and in 2014 (25 years in future ) he’d b sum where in his 30s. While Vera is prob on her early 20s , she prob could been born a year after 1989 or a lil after. But since she has a daughter and stopped mid her med school career. She’s prob in her early 20s</p>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Apr 2020 05:18:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Nico was probably around 10-13 ish maybe in 1989 so he’d be in her mid late thirties and if he was a lil bit younger in 1989, say maybe like 8 years old , he would be 32 years old. He is somewhere around his 30s. While Vera could have been a lil few years  after 1989. So she’d be somewhere in her 20s. I’d say she is early 20s? As she does have a child and stopped along med school . Or Vera could have been born exactly a year after 1989]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nico was probably around 10-13 ish maybe in 1989 so he’d be in her mid late thirties and if he was a lil bit younger in 1989, say maybe like 8 years old , he would be 32 years old. He is somewhere around his 30s. While Vera could have been a lil few years  after 1989. So she’d be somewhere in her 20s. I’d say she is early 20s? As she does have a child and stopped along med school . Or Vera could have been born exactly a year after 1989</p>
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					<description><![CDATA[Nico was probably around 10-13 ish maybe in 1989 so he’d be in her mid late thirties and if he was a lil bit younger in 1989, say maybe like 8 years old , he would be 32 years old. He is somewhere around his 30s. While Vera could have been a lil few years  after 1989. So she’d be somewhere in her 20s. I’d say she is early 20s? As she does have a child and stopped along med school]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nico was probably around 10-13 ish maybe in 1989 so he’d be in her mid late thirties and if he was a lil bit younger in 1989, say maybe like 8 years old , he would be 32 years old. He is somewhere around his 30s. While Vera could have been a lil few years  after 1989. So she’d be somewhere in her 20s. I’d say she is early 20s? As she does have a child and stopped along med school</p>
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		By: Casey		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[But when Vera found Nico in the last scene, why were they the same age? Wouldn’t Nico be 30 years older than Vera? Sorry Lol Mind blown.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But when Vera found Nico in the last scene, why were they the same age? Wouldn’t Nico be 30 years older than Vera? Sorry Lol Mind blown.</p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jul 2019 05:51:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The big question would be &quot;what did Timeline2 Adult Nico tell the kid Nico? What &quot;help&quot; was that?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The big question would be &#8220;what did Timeline2 Adult Nico tell the kid Nico? What &#8220;help&#8221; was that?</p>
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