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		By: Taylor		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Aug 2022 02:03:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Then I’m glad I outsourced that worked to Samantha in advance then! Great job @samantha!!]]></description>
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		By: Grazia		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Grazia]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Aug 2022 01:44:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Samantha&#039;s comment is what I came here to read, I was expecting an informed walkthrough like that. But again, the film may speak to each of us in different ways and depending on our beliefs we will interpret it one way or another.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Samantha&#8217;s comment is what I came here to read, I was expecting an informed walkthrough like that. But again, the film may speak to each of us in different ways and depending on our beliefs we will interpret it one way or another.</p>
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		By: Zekeonetwo		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Zekeonetwo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Apr 2022 02:26:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I agree with Lisa who said the comments on this movie review were way more interesting than the film, but the film review was very good too in my opinion.

The pivotal moment that I liked best was when instead of asking her guardian angel for punishment for the sadistic murderers of her child, she instead asked for: &quot;The power to forgive&quot;. I appreciated the surprising change of expectation, it took me aback.

This change in the request from a request for vengeance and justice to a request so that the burden she was carrying (which she had no power to resist) was that she would be able to forgive --- who?

We don&#039;t know because she didn&#039;t say.

But in my opinion, what she wanted mostly was to forgive herself for failing to protect her child from what these predators did.

I know she felt responsible for her child being abducted, any parent would. I know she wanted justice for her child, any parent would.

And, I know she was in constant hell over her failure as a parent, I know this because as a parent myself, if the predicament she was in was something I experienced, then I know I would be in that place she was in mentally, emotionally, and spiritually And really, there would be nothing I could do about that, that sense of helplessness and powerlessness.

That&#039;s just me in the world I inhabit. But, she did something.

She found a way to attempt to resolve her problem, but it took a great leap of faith to reach out to actual (she hopes) practitioners of the occult. In her shoes, I would never have attempted what she did, I don&#039;t think I would have that level of confidence or that level of desperation.

So, this was a very interesting story, it explored the outer reaches of human experience into places I will never go, because I am not that brave and because my imagination is not that big. But that is the purpose of a story and the heroic deeds they encompass.

I appreciate the review on this site and all the commenters observations and opinions, they helped me understand the film better.

I would love to see any future adventures this woman has based on her encounter with her guardian angel, it feels like her life is just beginning.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Lisa who said the comments on this movie review were way more interesting than the film, but the film review was very good too in my opinion.</p>
<p>The pivotal moment that I liked best was when instead of asking her guardian angel for punishment for the sadistic murderers of her child, she instead asked for: &#8220;The power to forgive&#8221;. I appreciated the surprising change of expectation, it took me aback.</p>
<p>This change in the request from a request for vengeance and justice to a request so that the burden she was carrying (which she had no power to resist) was that she would be able to forgive &#8212; who?</p>
<p>We don&#8217;t know because she didn&#8217;t say.</p>
<p>But in my opinion, what she wanted mostly was to forgive herself for failing to protect her child from what these predators did.</p>
<p>I know she felt responsible for her child being abducted, any parent would. I know she wanted justice for her child, any parent would.</p>
<p>And, I know she was in constant hell over her failure as a parent, I know this because as a parent myself, if the predicament she was in was something I experienced, then I know I would be in that place she was in mentally, emotionally, and spiritually And really, there would be nothing I could do about that, that sense of helplessness and powerlessness.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s just me in the world I inhabit. But, she did something.</p>
<p>She found a way to attempt to resolve her problem, but it took a great leap of faith to reach out to actual (she hopes) practitioners of the occult. In her shoes, I would never have attempted what she did, I don&#8217;t think I would have that level of confidence or that level of desperation.</p>
<p>So, this was a very interesting story, it explored the outer reaches of human experience into places I will never go, because I am not that brave and because my imagination is not that big. But that is the purpose of a story and the heroic deeds they encompass.</p>
<p>I appreciate the review on this site and all the commenters observations and opinions, they helped me understand the film better.</p>
<p>I would love to see any future adventures this woman has based on her encounter with her guardian angel, it feels like her life is just beginning.</p>
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		By: Taylor Holmes		</title>
		<link>https://taylorholmes.com/2019/08/31/a-detailed-walkthrough-of-the-movie-dark-song/#comment-1161033</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Taylor Holmes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Apr 2022 19:01:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://taylorholmes.com/2019/08/31/a-detailed-walkthrough-of-the-movie-dark-song/#comment-1161002&quot;&gt;rick&lt;/a&gt;.

Hey there Rick,
After interviewing the writer and director of this film, I think I have a pretty good bead on what it was that Liam was shooting for. Here&#039;s a specific quote from Liam and that interview (can be found &lt;a href=&quot;https://taylorholmes.com/2021/08/10/interview-with-a-dark-song-creator-liam-gavin/&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;) showing just where this movie&#039;s center is coming from: &quot;So that in mind, whilst A Dark Song is clearly built around an occult ceremony, I wrote it as a Catholic film, specifically an Augustinian film. It’s about traveling, not away from but, into the deep flaws of a person and either being swallowed up by them or in the deep dark seeing a light and transcending them.&quot;

Taylor]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://taylorholmes.com/2019/08/31/a-detailed-walkthrough-of-the-movie-dark-song/#comment-1161002">rick</a>.</p>
<p>Hey there Rick,<br />
After interviewing the writer and director of this film, I think I have a pretty good bead on what it was that Liam was shooting for. Here&#8217;s a specific quote from Liam and that interview (can be found <a href="https://taylorholmes.com/2021/08/10/interview-with-a-dark-song-creator-liam-gavin/">here</a>) showing just where this movie&#8217;s center is coming from: &#8220;So that in mind, whilst A Dark Song is clearly built around an occult ceremony, I wrote it as a Catholic film, specifically an Augustinian film. It’s about traveling, not away from but, into the deep flaws of a person and either being swallowed up by them or in the deep dark seeing a light and transcending them.&#8221;</p>
<p>Taylor</p>
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		By: Lisa		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lisa]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Apr 2022 18:55:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The comments on this post are way more interesting than this film was! ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The comments on this post are way more interesting than this film was! </p>
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		By: rick		</title>
		<link>https://taylorholmes.com/2019/08/31/a-detailed-walkthrough-of-the-movie-dark-song/#comment-1161002</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[rick]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Apr 2022 10:49:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Wow I&#039;m sorry but the writer of this article has no idea what he is talking about. As others have explained in better detail, this is classic western occult stuff that goes back hundreds of years (we have dated books from 16th century) and is built on ancient practices including both pre-biblical and biblical. 
These grimoires were written by and for Christians and western occultism is largely based on Judeo Christian concepts including the Hebrew alphabet and these rituals were traditionally done constantly asking for the Lord&#039;s protection and reiterating He is Almighty. It&#039;s based on Solomonic grimoires the story of King Solomon he trapped demons in a jar etc etc. It DEFINITELY makes a distinction between demons and holy guardian angels. 
(it is true similar concepts existed among other cultures Greeks Egyptian etc in pre-biblical times which is also part of western occult tradition).
   Western occult and this type of ritual - the film takes liberties but it is very much based on historical rituals- was entirely built on Christianity and practiced by Christians until VERY recently.
   In fact this idea of this blogger that anything occult or strange must somehow be demonic is a very new idea and very specific to evangelical protestants and conservative fundamentalists, which is a rather recent death cult within Christianity.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow I&#8217;m sorry but the writer of this article has no idea what he is talking about. As others have explained in better detail, this is classic western occult stuff that goes back hundreds of years (we have dated books from 16th century) and is built on ancient practices including both pre-biblical and biblical.<br />
These grimoires were written by and for Christians and western occultism is largely based on Judeo Christian concepts including the Hebrew alphabet and these rituals were traditionally done constantly asking for the Lord&#8217;s protection and reiterating He is Almighty. It&#8217;s based on Solomonic grimoires the story of King Solomon he trapped demons in a jar etc etc. It DEFINITELY makes a distinction between demons and holy guardian angels.<br />
(it is true similar concepts existed among other cultures Greeks Egyptian etc in pre-biblical times which is also part of western occult tradition).<br />
   Western occult and this type of ritual &#8211; the film takes liberties but it is very much based on historical rituals- was entirely built on Christianity and practiced by Christians until VERY recently.<br />
   In fact this idea of this blogger that anything occult or strange must somehow be demonic is a very new idea and very specific to evangelical protestants and conservative fundamentalists, which is a rather recent death cult within Christianity.</p>
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		By: Dystopian Medicine		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dystopian Medicine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Apr 2022 13:52:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The interesting thing that I see no one bringing up is the fact that in the scene where Solomon explains the five circle cycle, he is basically explaining the whole movie. They are:

The chamber of effect, &quot;where we seal our vessel from the world&quot;
The chamber of song, &quot;we push off into the void on our journey&quot;
The Blackness
The Boundless
The Tangible

These are just symbols in the ritual for what really happens on the journey to meeting the guardian angel.

The Chamber of Effect is the house itself, sealed off from the world. The Chamber of Song is the practice of the ritual (the eponymous &quot;dark song&quot;) itself, which she must do until she is totally honest. After being honest, she enters The Blackness, where she experiences death, gets Solomon stabbed, hears her child mauled by a dog through a door, and is taunted by a shadow demon. Once Solomon dies and the texts are all blacked out, she has entered the chamber of The Boundless, where she is stuck in the ritual and can not escape no matter how much time passes or how far she travels. After leaving and coming back to the house, she enters the chamber of The Tangible, where she is physically assaulted by demons and the angel manifests in the material realm.

The fact that Sophia asks for forgiveness in the end is a great twist, but I think the most important feature of this film is that it highlights the gulf between systems of ritual practice and what those ritual systems can actually mean. It indicates a way that one might try to understand occult practices going forward, as well as help some of us to breathe new life into religious dogma.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The interesting thing that I see no one bringing up is the fact that in the scene where Solomon explains the five circle cycle, he is basically explaining the whole movie. They are:</p>
<p>The chamber of effect, &#8220;where we seal our vessel from the world&#8221;<br />
The chamber of song, &#8220;we push off into the void on our journey&#8221;<br />
The Blackness<br />
The Boundless<br />
The Tangible</p>
<p>These are just symbols in the ritual for what really happens on the journey to meeting the guardian angel.</p>
<p>The Chamber of Effect is the house itself, sealed off from the world. The Chamber of Song is the practice of the ritual (the eponymous &#8220;dark song&#8221;) itself, which she must do until she is totally honest. After being honest, she enters The Blackness, where she experiences death, gets Solomon stabbed, hears her child mauled by a dog through a door, and is taunted by a shadow demon. Once Solomon dies and the texts are all blacked out, she has entered the chamber of The Boundless, where she is stuck in the ritual and can not escape no matter how much time passes or how far she travels. After leaving and coming back to the house, she enters the chamber of The Tangible, where she is physically assaulted by demons and the angel manifests in the material realm.</p>
<p>The fact that Sophia asks for forgiveness in the end is a great twist, but I think the most important feature of this film is that it highlights the gulf between systems of ritual practice and what those ritual systems can actually mean. It indicates a way that one might try to understand occult practices going forward, as well as help some of us to breathe new life into religious dogma.</p>
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		By: IAM ALLAH		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[IAM ALLAH]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Feb 2022 05:24:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Very good movie, especially if you’re in tune with the religious aspects and also the occult rituals. For a minute, I assumed that Solomon was the one who performed the faulty ritual on her missing child. Then there were several scenes that caught me off guard, for example, the dog caucus and the pouring of her urine in his food for some humor and get back. Overall, one hellava film with great potential.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very good movie, especially if you’re in tune with the religious aspects and also the occult rituals. For a minute, I assumed that Solomon was the one who performed the faulty ritual on her missing child. Then there were several scenes that caught me off guard, for example, the dog caucus and the pouring of her urine in his food for some humor and get back. Overall, one hellava film with great potential.</p>
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		By: Stephen		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Stephen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Feb 2022 23:12:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I finished watching the film about an hour ago and went looking for other perspectives, specifically the ending. As far as I’m concerned, she does, in fact, meet either her own guardian angel, or, at least, AN angel, as noted in the article. The one thing that makes me say that is, after she asks for the power to forgive, the angel smiles in what I thought was approval, because an angel very probably would already know what she was going to ask for, and yet, in the end, she doesn’t seek vengeance, or evil to spite evil, but something good and pure. Anyway, it would surprise me greatly if an angel agreed to do anything other than good. And, that’s my two cents, whatever that’s worth (not much).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I finished watching the film about an hour ago and went looking for other perspectives, specifically the ending. As far as I’m concerned, she does, in fact, meet either her own guardian angel, or, at least, AN angel, as noted in the article. The one thing that makes me say that is, after she asks for the power to forgive, the angel smiles in what I thought was approval, because an angel very probably would already know what she was going to ask for, and yet, in the end, she doesn’t seek vengeance, or evil to spite evil, but something good and pure. Anyway, it would surprise me greatly if an angel agreed to do anything other than good. And, that’s my two cents, whatever that’s worth (not much).</p>
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