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		By: Gwen		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[Ha! Glad you didn&#039;t liked it... that was some piece of crap, right? 
Actually, I don&#039;t want to write more about it, cause we already wasted precious live time seeing it. :D 
Cheers,
Gwen, the badger]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ha! Glad you didn&#8217;t liked it&#8230; that was some piece of crap, right?<br />
Actually, I don&#8217;t want to write more about it, cause we already wasted precious live time seeing it. :D<br />
Cheers,<br />
Gwen, the badger</p>
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		By: Lisa		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lisa]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Oct 2019 16:18:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I think Netflix releases pretty much the same stuff no matter where we live.  Which is good because I watch a lot of international stuff and I’m always waiting and waiting which I hate. It must seem like I have oodles of time but I do not, I do come here for some suggestions otherwise I’m scouring for good stuff and I wind up staying up way too late watching and suffering the next day. I’ll have to check out those ones you mentioned by M. Night as I’ve steered away from his stuff recently with the exception of Split and Glass. Now my head is spinning trying to figure out what movie you mentioned. I don’t often go to the movies and if I do, it’s to see something my child wants to see and as we know, most of the films here are not for the kids! The thing I don’t get about Netflix is that they keep churning out mediocre films when they are listed as being worth more than Disney now. So it’s not like they don’t have the money to spend! Well, I guess if I don’t figure it out I will be Sozeyed (sp?I dunno!) too!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Netflix releases pretty much the same stuff no matter where we live.  Which is good because I watch a lot of international stuff and I’m always waiting and waiting which I hate. It must seem like I have oodles of time but I do not, I do come here for some suggestions otherwise I’m scouring for good stuff and I wind up staying up way too late watching and suffering the next day. I’ll have to check out those ones you mentioned by M. Night as I’ve steered away from his stuff recently with the exception of Split and Glass. Now my head is spinning trying to figure out what movie you mentioned. I don’t often go to the movies and if I do, it’s to see something my child wants to see and as we know, most of the films here are not for the kids! The thing I don’t get about Netflix is that they keep churning out mediocre films when they are listed as being worth more than Disney now. So it’s not like they don’t have the money to spend! Well, I guess if I don’t figure it out I will be Sozeyed (sp?I dunno!) too!</p>
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		By: deKev		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[deKev]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Oct 2019 01:40:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@Lisa, did I really like In The Tall Grass? Sure, but only as far as what&#039;s new and available on Netflix that can be considered even remotely mind-blowing. That&#039;s NF from my part of the world anyway... oh hello America! But like you said, Taylor looks to be on top of NF&#039;s new Originals anyway...

And yes, I so agreed with your take on Shyamalan! For me it&#039;s nearly all downhill from The Sixth Sense on, The Lady in the Water being the absolute nadir, although he did pick things up a bit in recent times with Devil (closed-box, mind-bending stuff that he wrote/produced, ahem, hint, hint) and The Visit.

Speaking of The Usual Suspects, guess what, I just got Keyser Sozed again in a recent-ish blockbuster in the most unexpected way (duh!), just couldn&#039;t see literally the same trick coming at all (double duh!!). You probably knew what movie I&#039;m talking about anyway, seeing that you have watched soooo many movies mentioned here on THiNC alone, how do you even get the time, haha (nervous laughter)? In any case, I can&#039;t reveal its title having already spoiled its twist ending, haha (ironic laughter?).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Lisa, did I really like In The Tall Grass? Sure, but only as far as what&#8217;s new and available on Netflix that can be considered even remotely mind-blowing. That&#8217;s NF from my part of the world anyway&#8230; oh hello America! But like you said, Taylor looks to be on top of NF&#8217;s new Originals anyway&#8230;</p>
<p>And yes, I so agreed with your take on Shyamalan! For me it&#8217;s nearly all downhill from The Sixth Sense on, The Lady in the Water being the absolute nadir, although he did pick things up a bit in recent times with Devil (closed-box, mind-bending stuff that he wrote/produced, ahem, hint, hint) and The Visit.</p>
<p>Speaking of The Usual Suspects, guess what, I just got Keyser Sozed again in a recent-ish blockbuster in the most unexpected way (duh!), just couldn&#8217;t see literally the same trick coming at all (double duh!!). You probably knew what movie I&#8217;m talking about anyway, seeing that you have watched soooo many movies mentioned here on THiNC alone, how do you even get the time, haha (nervous laughter)? In any case, I can&#8217;t reveal its title having already spoiled its twist ending, haha (ironic laughter?).</p>
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		By: Lisa		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lisa]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Oct 2019 13:39:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Taylor, this movie was not good. Not by a long shot. I hope you don’t think I asked if you saw it because I thought it was and I hope you didn’t watch it because I asked! I wondered if you had seen it based on the religious angle because I knew you would take it apart for that. Maybe next time I’ll be more clear that I’m not asking because I thought something was actually good.  If you do choose to watch In The Tall Grass, I’m sure the short story is available for cheap somewhere to compare it to. The movie elaborates on a lot of things because this really was just a very short story and I think more was left up to the imagination in the story and fleshed out for the film.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Taylor, this movie was not good. Not by a long shot. I hope you don’t think I asked if you saw it because I thought it was and I hope you didn’t watch it because I asked! I wondered if you had seen it based on the religious angle because I knew you would take it apart for that. Maybe next time I’ll be more clear that I’m not asking because I thought something was actually good.  If you do choose to watch In The Tall Grass, I’m sure the short story is available for cheap somewhere to compare it to. The movie elaborates on a lot of things because this really was just a very short story and I think more was left up to the imagination in the story and fleshed out for the film.</p>
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		By: Lisa		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lisa]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Oct 2019 13:22:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[You will remember, though, that after The Sixth Sense, M. Night fell into his own trap trying super hard to recreate that twist in all of his movies and then we wound up with films like The Village which certainly did not live up to his first and best effort. Did you really like In The Tall Grass, that much? I’ll wait to see if Taylor posts about it to get too deep, but I wasn’t a tremendous fan.  The Usual Suspects is definitely one of my personal favorites as that is a twist you could never see coming! As for this film, his siblings were probably trying to just get him out of that place not knowing if he’d be strong enough to endure all the procedures but as his sister explains at the end, they are limited to the kind of help they can give. I mean who else but Daddy Satan would let a bunch of his kids die for not being strong enough?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You will remember, though, that after The Sixth Sense, M. Night fell into his own trap trying super hard to recreate that twist in all of his movies and then we wound up with films like The Village which certainly did not live up to his first and best effort. Did you really like In The Tall Grass, that much? I’ll wait to see if Taylor posts about it to get too deep, but I wasn’t a tremendous fan.  The Usual Suspects is definitely one of my personal favorites as that is a twist you could never see coming! As for this film, his siblings were probably trying to just get him out of that place not knowing if he’d be strong enough to endure all the procedures but as his sister explains at the end, they are limited to the kind of help they can give. I mean who else but Daddy Satan would let a bunch of his kids die for not being strong enough?</p>
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		By: deKev		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[deKev]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Oct 2019 09:20:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Is the rest of the story airtight? I&#039;m not sure, but I&#039;m especially mystified by the motive of the ghosts. By that I mean I don&#039;t get why would they want Eli off the property so badly by first scaring him, followed by literally dragging him out the airlock, and finally by leading him to the off-limits medical files. Firstly, I think I can safely assume that the ghosts are the spirit form of Eli&#039;s dead half-siblings - the 3 children who didn&#039;t make it out like Eli, and are left rotting in the cistern. Now my questions: are they redeemed souls/ghosts now fighting on the side of Good? In which case, it would explain they wanted Eli to leave the mansion so that he wouldn&#039;t get to pass some test there and &#039;ascend&#039; to his rightful place as son of Satan. Or are they still Satan&#039;s little children in spirit form? In which case, that would mean they wanted Eli to skedaddle because they did not think Eli would be strong enough to survive Procedure #3. Or are these just simple, good-natured ghosts, who&#039;re only trying to help Eli by making sure he does not end up dead like them. Hmmm, now that I&#039;ve spelled things out, all 3 scenarios can work too, so it doesn&#039;t matter what the writers really had in mind, I suppose.

The thing about Eli is that it is a one-trick pony, the one trick being THE TWIST. Granted it is one twist that I would presume not very many people would be able to guess correctly. So props go to the writers for coming up with such an original and brazen plot twist. Now is the twist here any more bizarre than, say, Matthew McConaughey&#039;s Serenity&#039;s or John Cusack&#039;s Identity&#039;s? Unlike Serenity or Identity though, Eli does not have much in the rest of the movie to prop up the whole shebang if the twist fails to register. In my experience, some of the greatest movies with a mind-bending twist that changes everything before it, like The Sixth Sense or The Usual Suspects, are blessed with a story so rich and so full of intrigue that they can stand on their own even without the twist ending. No such luck with Eli, sadly. 

Just my 2 cents FWIW. I must say I&#039;m a little surprised Taylor has seen fit to put up his review of Netflix&#039;s Eli, which I hope has not taken the place of another more deserving Netflix Original, In The Tall Grass (I promise this one be good, or better than Eli anyway, haha), but I&#039;m glad that he did.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is the rest of the story airtight? I&#8217;m not sure, but I&#8217;m especially mystified by the motive of the ghosts. By that I mean I don&#8217;t get why would they want Eli off the property so badly by first scaring him, followed by literally dragging him out the airlock, and finally by leading him to the off-limits medical files. Firstly, I think I can safely assume that the ghosts are the spirit form of Eli&#8217;s dead half-siblings &#8211; the 3 children who didn&#8217;t make it out like Eli, and are left rotting in the cistern. Now my questions: are they redeemed souls/ghosts now fighting on the side of Good? In which case, it would explain they wanted Eli to leave the mansion so that he wouldn&#8217;t get to pass some test there and &#8216;ascend&#8217; to his rightful place as son of Satan. Or are they still Satan&#8217;s little children in spirit form? In which case, that would mean they wanted Eli to skedaddle because they did not think Eli would be strong enough to survive Procedure #3. Or are these just simple, good-natured ghosts, who&#8217;re only trying to help Eli by making sure he does not end up dead like them. Hmmm, now that I&#8217;ve spelled things out, all 3 scenarios can work too, so it doesn&#8217;t matter what the writers really had in mind, I suppose.</p>
<p>The thing about Eli is that it is a one-trick pony, the one trick being THE TWIST. Granted it is one twist that I would presume not very many people would be able to guess correctly. So props go to the writers for coming up with such an original and brazen plot twist. Now is the twist here any more bizarre than, say, Matthew McConaughey&#8217;s Serenity&#8217;s or John Cusack&#8217;s Identity&#8217;s? Unlike Serenity or Identity though, Eli does not have much in the rest of the movie to prop up the whole shebang if the twist fails to register. In my experience, some of the greatest movies with a mind-bending twist that changes everything before it, like The Sixth Sense or The Usual Suspects, are blessed with a story so rich and so full of intrigue that they can stand on their own even without the twist ending. No such luck with Eli, sadly. </p>
<p>Just my 2 cents FWIW. I must say I&#8217;m a little surprised Taylor has seen fit to put up his review of Netflix&#8217;s Eli, which I hope has not taken the place of another more deserving Netflix Original, In The Tall Grass (I promise this one be good, or better than Eli anyway, haha), but I&#8217;m glad that he did.</p>
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		By: Taylor Holmes		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Taylor Holmes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Oct 2019 02:50:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://taylorholmes.com/2019/10/25/i-just-finished-netflixs-eli-and-what-did-i-just-watch/#comment-1017655&quot;&gt;deKev&lt;/a&gt;.

I will give you literally any correction you&#039;d like to make to this post - carte blanche. Just consider it conceded.

Now, about this movie. Just because they decided that the &quot;church&quot; would be the surprise right-hook doesn&#039;t mean I&#039;m going to fall for it. Especially when the &quot;church&quot; is some sort of counterfeit lameness. Yes, it was a surprising turn. Yes, it was shocking that the house was actually an old church or nunnery or something. And yes, it was a little shocking to find out that mom had sex with satan. heheh. But the story wasn&#039;t exactly airtight, now was it? 

I am totally fine with them throwing the church under the bus. Whatever. But do it convincingly. This pentagram cross amalgam cult group just didn&#039;t make any sense. But yes, it was a clever trick. They just didn&#039;t land it. No? I mean, did you think they landed it?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://taylorholmes.com/2019/10/25/i-just-finished-netflixs-eli-and-what-did-i-just-watch/#comment-1017655">deKev</a>.</p>
<p>I will give you literally any correction you&#8217;d like to make to this post &#8211; carte blanche. Just consider it conceded.</p>
<p>Now, about this movie. Just because they decided that the &#8220;church&#8221; would be the surprise right-hook doesn&#8217;t mean I&#8217;m going to fall for it. Especially when the &#8220;church&#8221; is some sort of counterfeit lameness. Yes, it was a surprising turn. Yes, it was shocking that the house was actually an old church or nunnery or something. And yes, it was a little shocking to find out that mom had sex with satan. heheh. But the story wasn&#8217;t exactly airtight, now was it? </p>
<p>I am totally fine with them throwing the church under the bus. Whatever. But do it convincingly. This pentagram cross amalgam cult group just didn&#8217;t make any sense. But yes, it was a clever trick. They just didn&#8217;t land it. No? I mean, did you think they landed it?</p>
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		By: Lisa		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lisa]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Oct 2019 16:56:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Agree with deKev, from what I understood, Dad was devout and truly thought Eli could be “cured” this way even though Dr. Horn (LOL at that name indeed) wasn’t successful before. Plus, did you catch the treatment? She was infusing him with Holy Water. Again, LOL. I hope no one thinks I mentioned this film because I liked it. Besides for the crazy twist, it was less than mediocre for me. But when the religious angle happened, I wondered if Taylor knew about this film. It doesn’t really seem deep enough to have any hidden meaning, though!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agree with deKev, from what I understood, Dad was devout and truly thought Eli could be “cured” this way even though Dr. Horn (LOL at that name indeed) wasn’t successful before. Plus, did you catch the treatment? She was infusing him with Holy Water. Again, LOL. I hope no one thinks I mentioned this film because I liked it. Besides for the crazy twist, it was less than mediocre for me. But when the religious angle happened, I wondered if Taylor knew about this film. It doesn’t really seem deep enough to have any hidden meaning, though!</p>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Oct 2019 09:25:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Just to clarify a plot point, I don&#039;t think the muscleman father is possessed like you said, I think he genuinely wants to get the kid &#039;cured&#039;, even if that means having to kill the kid while saving his soul or something, the same lengths as what Dr Horn is prepared to go to, I suppose. Which is unlike the mother, who&#039;s only willing to go as far as &#039;experimental drugs&#039; or perhaps exorcism, and if these fail, so be it, at least she still has a &#039;son&#039;, even if he&#039;s a devil incarnate, Satan&#039;s spawn or whatever.

For what it&#039;s worth, even knowing that everything is just setting up for some clever or awful twist come the end, the reveal still caught me by surprise somewhat. From my experience, when obligatory supernatural horror tropes like dream sequence, creepy ghost child, jump scares, etc, are featured so prominently in the suspense part of the movie, it stands to reason that the plot twist then has just got to be something less supernatural and more grounded or something psychological, right? So yeah, at least the movie has made a refreshing twist on the ... twist, I suppose.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just to clarify a plot point, I don&#8217;t think the muscleman father is possessed like you said, I think he genuinely wants to get the kid &#8216;cured&#8217;, even if that means having to kill the kid while saving his soul or something, the same lengths as what Dr Horn is prepared to go to, I suppose. Which is unlike the mother, who&#8217;s only willing to go as far as &#8216;experimental drugs&#8217; or perhaps exorcism, and if these fail, so be it, at least she still has a &#8216;son&#8217;, even if he&#8217;s a devil incarnate, Satan&#8217;s spawn or whatever.</p>
<p>For what it&#8217;s worth, even knowing that everything is just setting up for some clever or awful twist come the end, the reveal still caught me by surprise somewhat. From my experience, when obligatory supernatural horror tropes like dream sequence, creepy ghost child, jump scares, etc, are featured so prominently in the suspense part of the movie, it stands to reason that the plot twist then has just got to be something less supernatural and more grounded or something psychological, right? So yeah, at least the movie has made a refreshing twist on the &#8230; twist, I suppose.</p>
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