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		By: Taylor Holmes		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Taylor Holmes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2020 21:59:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://taylorholmes.com/2020/01/11/as-above-so-below-recommended-unpacked-discussed/#comment-1036174&quot;&gt;d&lt;/a&gt;.

I&#039;m fine with you not digging it. That works for me. And yeah, I&#039;m not a review site. I add review scores to my write ups just so people have context about what I liked/didn&#039;t like about the film. I&#039;d prefer to not give ratings because I do give indie filmmakers a break. If you go out there, with $10k and make a film, I&#039;m not going to rate you as hardcore as I would Christopher Nolan and his next film.  So yeah - like I said, I am LITERALLY not trying to be a review website. If I&#039;m bringing something to you, I pretty much liked it. I want to find films that are decent, and on top of that, encourage small movie creators. That is my goal here.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://taylorholmes.com/2020/01/11/as-above-so-below-recommended-unpacked-discussed/#comment-1036174">d</a>.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m fine with you not digging it. That works for me. And yeah, I&#8217;m not a review site. I add review scores to my write ups just so people have context about what I liked/didn&#8217;t like about the film. I&#8217;d prefer to not give ratings because I do give indie filmmakers a break. If you go out there, with $10k and make a film, I&#8217;m not going to rate you as hardcore as I would Christopher Nolan and his next film.  So yeah &#8211; like I said, I am LITERALLY not trying to be a review website. If I&#8217;m bringing something to you, I pretty much liked it. I want to find films that are decent, and on top of that, encourage small movie creators. That is my goal here.</p>
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		By: d		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2020 18:12:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[You&#039;ve gotta be one of the VERY few people that actually liked this movie. This review just further enforces the ridiculous scoring of this site. I wouldn&#039;t be surprised if you gave area 407 a 4 at this point]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;ve gotta be one of the VERY few people that actually liked this movie. This review just further enforces the ridiculous scoring of this site. I wouldn&#8217;t be surprised if you gave area 407 a 4 at this point</p>
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		By: Lisa		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lisa]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jan 2020 14:29:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Agreed. Had they done this right, it would have been a fantastic concept. I also enjoyed the ending where they came out upside down and felt this was at least one thing the film got right. We are on the same page regarding the paranormal activity and I felt like this film was trying to be too many different things at once. I think this kind of thing is easier to forgive in a movie like Indiana Jones which essentially was the first of its kind and there was nothing to compare it to from before. But these days when everything has been done tenfold, you need to stand out from the pack. In this film the concept and even the scenery is right but the execution just kind of fails for me.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed. Had they done this right, it would have been a fantastic concept. I also enjoyed the ending where they came out upside down and felt this was at least one thing the film got right. We are on the same page regarding the paranormal activity and I felt like this film was trying to be too many different things at once. I think this kind of thing is easier to forgive in a movie like Indiana Jones which essentially was the first of its kind and there was nothing to compare it to from before. But these days when everything has been done tenfold, you need to stand out from the pack. In this film the concept and even the scenery is right but the execution just kind of fails for me.</p>
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		By: deKev		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jan 2020 12:34:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[First off, just let me say that the movie is just about passable for me, even after a second viewing. What I like best about the movie is the Robert Langdon and Indy Jones stuff, maybe a bit more on the cerebral Langdon than the all-action Indy. I just wish there were more code deciphering a la The Da Vinci Code though, because technological ingenuity of the ancients have always fascinated me. Ptolemaic hinge, anyone? What I hate most, OTOH, has got to be all the in-your-face supernatural stuff, such as Lisa&#039;s &#039;weird singing chicks&#039;, the stone monks that came alive, the black robed dude sitting on a chair, and so on... just way too many of these. Although the subtler bits, like the place where all sounds are weirdly muted, or right at the end where up is down and down is up, are pretty innovative and again I wish more of these could have featured instead. 

As for the poem that shouldn&#039;t have rhymed in English, I failed to register that at all the first time around, and almost missed it at the second time of asking too, ha! Anyway, at a stretch, might it be possible that the translator is taking some artistic license with his interpretation of the ancient Aramaic text? It&#039;s possible the poem might not even have rhymed in its original Aramaic form, who knows? I believe most classical poems written in ancient Greek or Latin, like the Iliad, did not even rhyme in their native language. I think the ancients were more concerned with rhythm or meter, neither of which I have half a clue with, so there&#039;s just no way for me to tell if the instantly translated poem from the movie has these things in place too. Well now, if someone can instantly translate Aramaic text into an English poem complete with rhyme, rhythm and metre, he&#039;s either a genius, or more likely we be the idiots taken for a ride by the filmmakers. While a rhyming poem may sound good, it comes at the expense of suspension of disbelief, so yeah, I&#039;ll chalk this up as a plot hole too. Well spotted! Henry.

Finally, if I may just add some personal observations regarding the shaky cam or found footage style employed by the movie. While a shaky cam point of view provides that added bit of immersion for the viewers, which is always welcome, it also introduces a limitation, and that is ... reality (as opposed to illusion) is to be suggested at all times by what the cameras may capture. It&#039;s fair to say audiences have long been taught that cameras as depicted in a movie do not lie, especially those hand held by actors in a movie, however paradoxical that might sound. So I think I am right to suggest that what the camera sees, i.e. the viewers&#039; POV, has got to be 100% real and not just hallucinatory, yes? 

And yet with this movie, the viewer is never sure if they are seeing a mere hallucination, as with George&#039;s little brother, or 100% real, as with the old style telephone. It all seems rather arbitrary. Just because the viewers&#039; POV is from George&#039;s headcam does not make it acceptable that he (which translates to the viewers too) is seeing a personal hallucination. Imagine a scenario where the CCTV in a Paranormal Activity movie captures a ghostly image sauntering across the hall, only for it to turn out to be a hallucinatory sequence on the part of a character!!? It just does not work that way, right?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First off, just let me say that the movie is just about passable for me, even after a second viewing. What I like best about the movie is the Robert Langdon and Indy Jones stuff, maybe a bit more on the cerebral Langdon than the all-action Indy. I just wish there were more code deciphering a la The Da Vinci Code though, because technological ingenuity of the ancients have always fascinated me. Ptolemaic hinge, anyone? What I hate most, OTOH, has got to be all the in-your-face supernatural stuff, such as Lisa&#8217;s &#8216;weird singing chicks&#8217;, the stone monks that came alive, the black robed dude sitting on a chair, and so on&#8230; just way too many of these. Although the subtler bits, like the place where all sounds are weirdly muted, or right at the end where up is down and down is up, are pretty innovative and again I wish more of these could have featured instead. </p>
<p>As for the poem that shouldn&#8217;t have rhymed in English, I failed to register that at all the first time around, and almost missed it at the second time of asking too, ha! Anyway, at a stretch, might it be possible that the translator is taking some artistic license with his interpretation of the ancient Aramaic text? It&#8217;s possible the poem might not even have rhymed in its original Aramaic form, who knows? I believe most classical poems written in ancient Greek or Latin, like the Iliad, did not even rhyme in their native language. I think the ancients were more concerned with rhythm or meter, neither of which I have half a clue with, so there&#8217;s just no way for me to tell if the instantly translated poem from the movie has these things in place too. Well now, if someone can instantly translate Aramaic text into an English poem complete with rhyme, rhythm and metre, he&#8217;s either a genius, or more likely we be the idiots taken for a ride by the filmmakers. While a rhyming poem may sound good, it comes at the expense of suspension of disbelief, so yeah, I&#8217;ll chalk this up as a plot hole too. Well spotted! Henry.</p>
<p>Finally, if I may just add some personal observations regarding the shaky cam or found footage style employed by the movie. While a shaky cam point of view provides that added bit of immersion for the viewers, which is always welcome, it also introduces a limitation, and that is &#8230; reality (as opposed to illusion) is to be suggested at all times by what the cameras may capture. It&#8217;s fair to say audiences have long been taught that cameras as depicted in a movie do not lie, especially those hand held by actors in a movie, however paradoxical that might sound. So I think I am right to suggest that what the camera sees, i.e. the viewers&#8217; POV, has got to be 100% real and not just hallucinatory, yes? </p>
<p>And yet with this movie, the viewer is never sure if they are seeing a mere hallucination, as with George&#8217;s little brother, or 100% real, as with the old style telephone. It all seems rather arbitrary. Just because the viewers&#8217; POV is from George&#8217;s headcam does not make it acceptable that he (which translates to the viewers too) is seeing a personal hallucination. Imagine a scenario where the CCTV in a Paranormal Activity movie captures a ghostly image sauntering across the hall, only for it to turn out to be a hallucinatory sequence on the part of a character!!? It just does not work that way, right?</p>
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		By: Lisa		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lisa]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jan 2020 15:53:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Taylor, the idea of a film about the catacombs is wonderful but this film wound up trying way too hard to do something deep (like the levels going down and down, as above so below and all that) and I just felt it failed miserably. Perhaps they should have kept it a bit simpler. I also want to know what deKev thinks as we are usually on the same page with our likes and dislikes on here. Monos was so strong for me emotionally, I didn’t even notice any plot holes or anything falling apart which is how a movie succeeds for me. I spent a lot of time in a Paris when I was younger and now I’m just jealous I never got to see the catacombs!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Taylor, the idea of a film about the catacombs is wonderful but this film wound up trying way too hard to do something deep (like the levels going down and down, as above so below and all that) and I just felt it failed miserably. Perhaps they should have kept it a bit simpler. I also want to know what deKev thinks as we are usually on the same page with our likes and dislikes on here. Monos was so strong for me emotionally, I didn’t even notice any plot holes or anything falling apart which is how a movie succeeds for me. I spent a lot of time in a Paris when I was younger and now I’m just jealous I never got to see the catacombs!</p>
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		By: Lisa		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lisa]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jan 2020 15:46:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I thought about the poem rhyming as well. There were so many things wrong with this movie and I felt the script was just bad. Adding the low budget on top of that and I just can’t find a way to redeem it. I only watched it because it was listed on here but if not, I probably would have found it on my own eventually.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought about the poem rhyming as well. There were so many things wrong with this movie and I felt the script was just bad. Adding the low budget on top of that and I just can’t find a way to redeem it. I only watched it because it was listed on here but if not, I probably would have found it on my own eventually.</p>
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		By: Henry		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Henry]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jan 2020 08:10:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I watched this movie years ago and decided to give it a re-watch to refresh my memory. And the first thing I recalled was this: Why does that poem rhyme when translated to English? So yeah, plot holes... or just bad writing?

I likely watched this because it was on some horror movie list. Or maybe it was recommended by some algorithm because I liked the Descent. Who knows? But I&#039;m sure I watched because I&#039;ll try just about anything.

Agree with Lisa that the 4s are too high for what this is. I recalled the pay-off being a little better, and maybe on a first viewing that&#039;s what caries the movie. However, it&#039;s also good enough for what it is.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I watched this movie years ago and decided to give it a re-watch to refresh my memory. And the first thing I recalled was this: Why does that poem rhyme when translated to English? So yeah, plot holes&#8230; or just bad writing?</p>
<p>I likely watched this because it was on some horror movie list. Or maybe it was recommended by some algorithm because I liked the Descent. Who knows? But I&#8217;m sure I watched because I&#8217;ll try just about anything.</p>
<p>Agree with Lisa that the 4s are too high for what this is. I recalled the pay-off being a little better, and maybe on a first viewing that&#8217;s what caries the movie. However, it&#8217;s also good enough for what it is.</p>
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		By: Taylor Holmes		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Taylor Holmes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jan 2020 22:22:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://taylorholmes.com/2020/01/11/as-above-so-below-recommended-unpacked-discussed/#comment-1027373&quot;&gt;deKev&lt;/a&gt;.

Lisa - I have a soft spot for guys that just pick up a camera and go for it. Is it Inception? Or Nolan? No. But lots of movies I love have these same sorts of problems.  For example, Monos. The back quarter of that film sort of fell apart due to editorial leaps, and mismatches. But, I give grace to films that don&#039;t know any better and are just going for it. Same for movies with crappy acting but big ideas. They get a pass. 

This movie had a laughable &quot;female Indiana Jones&quot; thing going?? Really? Hahaha. And that was a foundational idea for the movie. I&#039;m OK with your not digging the movie. Perdita Weeks was fantastic. (The rest of the cast was meh.) And I just adored the idea of these humans crafting a film out of the Parisian Catacombs. Sure, it got bumpy towards the end. But I thought it worked. I just had a lot of fun with it. 

Should I knock a star off of it? Two? Probably. But I&#039;m not going to because I just love the guts of this crew basically guerilla&#039;ing this movie into existence. 

@Dekev - love to hear what you think of it second time around. I&#039;ve watched it twice since discovering it. But that&#039;ll probably be it for me. But I&#039;m glad I was introduced to it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://taylorholmes.com/2020/01/11/as-above-so-below-recommended-unpacked-discussed/#comment-1027373">deKev</a>.</p>
<p>Lisa &#8211; I have a soft spot for guys that just pick up a camera and go for it. Is it Inception? Or Nolan? No. But lots of movies I love have these same sorts of problems.  For example, Monos. The back quarter of that film sort of fell apart due to editorial leaps, and mismatches. But, I give grace to films that don&#8217;t know any better and are just going for it. Same for movies with crappy acting but big ideas. They get a pass. </p>
<p>This movie had a laughable &#8220;female Indiana Jones&#8221; thing going?? Really? Hahaha. And that was a foundational idea for the movie. I&#8217;m OK with your not digging the movie. Perdita Weeks was fantastic. (The rest of the cast was meh.) And I just adored the idea of these humans crafting a film out of the Parisian Catacombs. Sure, it got bumpy towards the end. But I thought it worked. I just had a lot of fun with it. </p>
<p>Should I knock a star off of it? Two? Probably. But I&#8217;m not going to because I just love the guts of this crew basically guerilla&#8217;ing this movie into existence. </p>
<p>@Dekev &#8211; love to hear what you think of it second time around. I&#8217;ve watched it twice since discovering it. But that&#8217;ll probably be it for me. But I&#8217;m glad I was introduced to it.</p>
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		By: Lisa		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lisa]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jan 2020 14:58:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[So, I’m having trouble with this film being rated a 4. I thought it was terrible and filled with plot holes that could have been plot craters. Why did the weird singing chicks just randomly appear throughout the film? Never explained. Only some of the folks in the film faced their guilt before they died while others just died in some arbitrary way. It was all over the place. It was no Monos! Even the Bigfoot movie was way better than this one.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, I’m having trouble with this film being rated a 4. I thought it was terrible and filled with plot holes that could have been plot craters. Why did the weird singing chicks just randomly appear throughout the film? Never explained. Only some of the folks in the film faced their guilt before they died while others just died in some arbitrary way. It was all over the place. It was no Monos! Even the Bigfoot movie was way better than this one.</p>
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