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		By: Eleanor		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 16 May 2021 02:36:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Looking at it again, it is Thomas versus Vernon, set back in the 50s. Only one of them can survive and it is Vernon that wins. They both were the first of the 20 Vernon had to enlist to fight to the death and Vernon wins. Thomas meets Vernon on the road but doesn&#039;t know him because he died. I think I got it. Thomas has been going around and around in these loops for 100 years and that is why Vernon warns him not to enter the woods.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looking at it again, it is Thomas versus Vernon, set back in the 50s. Only one of them can survive and it is Vernon that wins. They both were the first of the 20 Vernon had to enlist to fight to the death and Vernon wins. Thomas meets Vernon on the road but doesn&#8217;t know him because he died. I think I got it. Thomas has been going around and around in these loops for 100 years and that is why Vernon warns him not to enter the woods.</p>
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		By: Eleanor		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eleanor]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 May 2021 02:28:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Someone stated that these were parallel universes when I think that they are intersecting universes. Perhaps they are universes which overlap like Venn Diagrams. I agree with everything Taylor said. I have a very strange mind and I think and speak along these lines, part of being ADHD I guess. I searched just to check out whether my mind was functioning in the normal chaotic manner most people do not understand. It is a lonely life living with my brain. I have always said it is hard to be me. In one scenario, the survivor was Kip, that is how he was able to come back having lived his full life (several wonderful children), and felt it was his obligation to save Megan and allow her to have her life. The only problem was that when young Kip returned from looking for food in this timeline, he was not the &quot;best version of Kip&quot; and wanted to kill everyone and come live life again. Maybe one is only allowed to live their life once because Kip&#039;s plan did not come to fruition. Maybe Kip had the wrong timeline in order to live life again. Megan attempted to kill Kip to prevent him from killing everyone in his attempt to live again, and was warned by the old man Kip who still had a heart perhaps. Perhaps Tommy was the only one who had a pure heart which might be seen in his attempt to use his time as Tommy2 to warn the others to get out. Thomas seemed to be outside of the circles in each scenario. I think he was so obsessed with his quest to be an actor that he looked at life as an alternate or outside character, perhaps studying his reactions. He only seemed &quot;involved&quot; to any extent at the thought of some nefarious  sexual motive on the part of Vernon, and even then, he lacked emotive behavior. In any case I absolutely loved this movie because, unlike most, I had to think and am still thinking about the different outcomes. Who created the alternate universes? Vernon seemed to be more interested in what he already had, eternal life. What did he have to do with the loops? The movie itself was presented as though there were many movies and subplots aside from the intersecting time lines. It went here...where...there it is...oops it got away again...now I get it...no I don&#039;t. What a great ride.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Someone stated that these were parallel universes when I think that they are intersecting universes. Perhaps they are universes which overlap like Venn Diagrams. I agree with everything Taylor said. I have a very strange mind and I think and speak along these lines, part of being ADHD I guess. I searched just to check out whether my mind was functioning in the normal chaotic manner most people do not understand. It is a lonely life living with my brain. I have always said it is hard to be me. In one scenario, the survivor was Kip, that is how he was able to come back having lived his full life (several wonderful children), and felt it was his obligation to save Megan and allow her to have her life. The only problem was that when young Kip returned from looking for food in this timeline, he was not the &#8220;best version of Kip&#8221; and wanted to kill everyone and come live life again. Maybe one is only allowed to live their life once because Kip&#8217;s plan did not come to fruition. Maybe Kip had the wrong timeline in order to live life again. Megan attempted to kill Kip to prevent him from killing everyone in his attempt to live again, and was warned by the old man Kip who still had a heart perhaps. Perhaps Tommy was the only one who had a pure heart which might be seen in his attempt to use his time as Tommy2 to warn the others to get out. Thomas seemed to be outside of the circles in each scenario. I think he was so obsessed with his quest to be an actor that he looked at life as an alternate or outside character, perhaps studying his reactions. He only seemed &#8220;involved&#8221; to any extent at the thought of some nefarious  sexual motive on the part of Vernon, and even then, he lacked emotive behavior. In any case I absolutely loved this movie because, unlike most, I had to think and am still thinking about the different outcomes. Who created the alternate universes? Vernon seemed to be more interested in what he already had, eternal life. What did he have to do with the loops? The movie itself was presented as though there were many movies and subplots aside from the intersecting time lines. It went here&#8230;where&#8230;there it is&#8230;oops it got away again&#8230;now I get it&#8230;no I don&#8217;t. What a great ride.</p>
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		By: Alex		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Apr 2021 18:11:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[You got quite a few plot points wrong my guy. The dude that Vernon kills at the beginning isn’t himself, it’s the same guy who is in the car with him later. Also Megan from the original timeline is the one who shows up for Tommy at the end, and she stabs Grace with the samurai sword that she found their first night. And on that topic, Thomas from the first timeline didn’t “fall down and die”, Kip killed him.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You got quite a few plot points wrong my guy. The dude that Vernon kills at the beginning isn’t himself, it’s the same guy who is in the car with him later. Also Megan from the original timeline is the one who shows up for Tommy at the end, and she stabs Grace with the samurai sword that she found their first night. And on that topic, Thomas from the first timeline didn’t “fall down and die”, Kip killed him.</p>
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		By: Ann		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Apr 2021 19:52:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This film made total sense to me- maybe one of my favourite time travel films( but that could be due to the originality). I believed the interviewee to be Tommy and I think that he and Thomas made it out because they didn’t go straight into murderer mode. This shows them to be good people, similarly when Vernon tells Thomas he can’t go into the woods- it’s because he can tell he’s a good person. 
As for Old Kip, I thought he explained to Megan that he had left as young kip, lived his life and now returned as it was her turn to do the same and someone else after her and so forth. I thought it meant there was a never ending continual loop.
As a side note, I think that an indicator of Thomas being good is the kindness he shows offering beers to everyone and not judging.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This film made total sense to me- maybe one of my favourite time travel films( but that could be due to the originality). I believed the interviewee to be Tommy and I think that he and Thomas made it out because they didn’t go straight into murderer mode. This shows them to be good people, similarly when Vernon tells Thomas he can’t go into the woods- it’s because he can tell he’s a good person.<br />
As for Old Kip, I thought he explained to Megan that he had left as young kip, lived his life and now returned as it was her turn to do the same and someone else after her and so forth. I thought it meant there was a never ending continual loop.<br />
As a side note, I think that an indicator of Thomas being good is the kindness he shows offering beers to everyone and not judging.</p>
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		By: Adam Fairhall		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Adam Fairhall]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Mar 2021 03:00:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thanks all for a good after-film read! Just to say that in my mind Lili&#039;s nailed it, and the idea that it&#039;s both Tommy1 and Thomas2 that make it out because it&#039;s one survivor from each timeline is confirmed by the last (pre-credits) line of the film by the historian, something like &quot;only one can survive but... multiple timelines?&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks all for a good after-film read! Just to say that in my mind Lili&#8217;s nailed it, and the idea that it&#8217;s both Tommy1 and Thomas2 that make it out because it&#8217;s one survivor from each timeline is confirmed by the last (pre-credits) line of the film by the historian, something like &#8220;only one can survive but&#8230; multiple timelines?&#8221;</p>
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		By: David		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Feb 2021 04:43:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Good movie. I thought Coherence was more confusing. My question is this. Loop 1 had 3 survivors at the end of day 3, Grace1, Tommy1, and Megan1. Then Loop 2, day 1 happens. Theoretically could Tommy2 kill off Grace2, Megan2, kip2 Thomas2 then kill Megan1 and Grace 1. Therefore Tommy1 and Tommy2 could both be freed to leave because they were the last survivors of their loops. Meaning there would be 2 Tommys in the world. What do you think? Also if Tommy1 and Thomas2 leave the forest does the loop keep happening or does it only continue if there are more than 1 survivor at the end of 3 days?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good movie. I thought Coherence was more confusing. My question is this. Loop 1 had 3 survivors at the end of day 3, Grace1, Tommy1, and Megan1. Then Loop 2, day 1 happens. Theoretically could Tommy2 kill off Grace2, Megan2, kip2 Thomas2 then kill Megan1 and Grace 1. Therefore Tommy1 and Tommy2 could both be freed to leave because they were the last survivors of their loops. Meaning there would be 2 Tommys in the world. What do you think? Also if Tommy1 and Thomas2 leave the forest does the loop keep happening or does it only continue if there are more than 1 survivor at the end of 3 days?</p>
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		By: Robert		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2020 17:49:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I really really hate the audio of this movie.... Reverb/ echo outdoors that doesn&#039;t match and my misophonia goes nuts with the crappy picking up of mouth clicks.
It&#039;s going to take me a while to finish it...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really really hate the audio of this movie&#8230;. Reverb/ echo outdoors that doesn&#8217;t match and my misophonia goes nuts with the crappy picking up of mouth clicks.<br />
It&#8217;s going to take me a while to finish it&#8230;</p>
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		By: Ashley M		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ashley M]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2020 08:46:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://taylorholmes.com/2020/01/23/explaining-the-confusing-movie-artifact-lake/#comment-1074147&quot;&gt;Ashley M&lt;/a&gt;.

Or if we go with the theory that Thomas survived because Grace 1 had killed all of group 2 getting out of the car then maybe the way to save them all is one from each timeline. Old Kip wasn’t worried about getting stuck in the timeline again. So Tommy already have been the one to escape shouldn’t either. So what he needs to is plant letters for the remaining members of the group when they first arrive explaining to only one person what is going on. And what they need to do to survive. With all the old artifacts showing up it should be more plausible to believe.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://taylorholmes.com/2020/01/23/explaining-the-confusing-movie-artifact-lake/#comment-1074147">Ashley M</a>.</p>
<p>Or if we go with the theory that Thomas survived because Grace 1 had killed all of group 2 getting out of the car then maybe the way to save them all is one from each timeline. Old Kip wasn’t worried about getting stuck in the timeline again. So Tommy already have been the one to escape shouldn’t either. So what he needs to is plant letters for the remaining members of the group when they first arrive explaining to only one person what is going on. And what they need to do to survive. With all the old artifacts showing up it should be more plausible to believe.</p>
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		By: Ashley M		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ashley M]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2020 08:22:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Ok so my take away on this movie is what a mind twist. I am certain the one doing the interview is Tommy and Thomas. Number one you can clearly hear Tommy speak but then in the credits when they find Vernon he says he asks how Thomas found him and what the f@$&#038; Tommy wanted to know. If you pay very close attention to the beginning it helps piece it together. In the car at the beginning Kip is mocking everybody for saying that the Snapchats are like photography. That makes me believe the photos that have been printing are from Kip when he survived and made it to an older man. Also further proof he is the only one that saw Tommy try to use the antenna and get the printer WiFi so it would have to be him. I believe Thomas was saved because he never fully entered the forest the second time around because Tommy was coming out and fighting with Megan and grace by that point. Kip states that he was told by the old man(himself) that only one could survive. If they are already in the time loop then that is why Kip probably survived. He probably killed his older self the other time loops before Old Kip could talk to Megan and figure out what was going on. What I want to know is how many timelines. Also I am really curious about the guy with Vernon. He has to know about Vernon. So he is either one of the survivors or one the cult people that followed Vernon.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok so my take away on this movie is what a mind twist. I am certain the one doing the interview is Tommy and Thomas. Number one you can clearly hear Tommy speak but then in the credits when they find Vernon he says he asks how Thomas found him and what the f@$&amp; Tommy wanted to know. If you pay very close attention to the beginning it helps piece it together. In the car at the beginning Kip is mocking everybody for saying that the Snapchats are like photography. That makes me believe the photos that have been printing are from Kip when he survived and made it to an older man. Also further proof he is the only one that saw Tommy try to use the antenna and get the printer WiFi so it would have to be him. I believe Thomas was saved because he never fully entered the forest the second time around because Tommy was coming out and fighting with Megan and grace by that point. Kip states that he was told by the old man(himself) that only one could survive. If they are already in the time loop then that is why Kip probably survived. He probably killed his older self the other time loops before Old Kip could talk to Megan and figure out what was going on. What I want to know is how many timelines. Also I am really curious about the guy with Vernon. He has to know about Vernon. So he is either one of the survivors or one the cult people that followed Vernon.</p>
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