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		By: Dan		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Dec 2023 17:12:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s clear from this review and the replies that there are two types of people. Those who though this movies was far fetched and non believable and thos who marvelled in the glory of nazi&#039;s trying to steal from the hardest Finnish comando and him killing them for doing so. 

If you don&#039;t understand the movie dont hate upon it. Try to understand whats making you think this was supposed to be realistic. It was a glorious fun fest of silliness.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s clear from this review and the replies that there are two types of people. Those who though this movies was far fetched and non believable and thos who marvelled in the glory of nazi&#8217;s trying to steal from the hardest Finnish comando and him killing them for doing so. </p>
<p>If you don&#8217;t understand the movie dont hate upon it. Try to understand whats making you think this was supposed to be realistic. It was a glorious fun fest of silliness.</p>
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		By: Aaron Aylsworth		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Aug 2023 07:35:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[He did not kill 300 Nazis before quitting the war, but 300 Red Army soldiers with whom Finlands was at war during The Winter War (Finland was initially allied with Germany against Soviet Union, but uneasily allied with Soviet Union as Germany began to be pushed back from Leningrad.)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He did not kill 300 Nazis before quitting the war, but 300 Red Army soldiers with whom Finlands was at war during The Winter War (Finland was initially allied with Germany against Soviet Union, but uneasily allied with Soviet Union as Germany began to be pushed back from Leningrad.)</p>
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		By: Sam		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Aug 2023 20:47:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Honestly, I liked the movie BECAUSE it was nonstop action. It looked cool; all of the dog ads got to me; I was bored. I bought the movie, sat down and watched it. It was absurd, crazy, and even a little insane at times, but that&#039;s why I watched it! I knew it would be dumb; I knew it would be wild. That&#039;s what makes the movie good, in my opinion. While the joke at the end could have been better, I think it was fine. Sometimes I just want to take a break from watching &quot;thinker films&quot; and just laze around on my couch and watch some mindless action movies. Other days I&#039;ll rewatch What Dreams May Come or Fight Club and see if there&#039;s anything new I notice while watching them. If you see this, your article was funny while being sarcastic, I feel like you&#039;d make a great comedian.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Honestly, I liked the movie BECAUSE it was nonstop action. It looked cool; all of the dog ads got to me; I was bored. I bought the movie, sat down and watched it. It was absurd, crazy, and even a little insane at times, but that&#8217;s why I watched it! I knew it would be dumb; I knew it would be wild. That&#8217;s what makes the movie good, in my opinion. While the joke at the end could have been better, I think it was fine. Sometimes I just want to take a break from watching &#8220;thinker films&#8221; and just laze around on my couch and watch some mindless action movies. Other days I&#8217;ll rewatch What Dreams May Come or Fight Club and see if there&#8217;s anything new I notice while watching them. If you see this, your article was funny while being sarcastic, I feel like you&#8217;d make a great comedian.</p>
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		By: Marina		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Jul 2023 00:48:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I for one agree entirely with the review. It&#039;s not that I don&#039;t love some blood and action but by the time of the hanging...I just couldn&#039;t suspend disbelief anymore. I mean, to be fair, the arrival of the germans just made me think of a 1944 version of Mad Max and for some reason (I know why scenaristically but still) the germans and finnish all speak english?? There were so many little things that did not make sense. The germans had no morality at all, no qualm Killing each other for gold (although it&#039;s not even really said).
The movie just feels aimless and useless. I like SOME character development and there was none, no doubt, no regret from anyone, no trauma either. The girls were no worse off even though they ahd to walk through mines while it was enough to kill off experienced soldiers.
Also, must I mention the anachronistic feeling of it all? This scene with all the girls walking side by side, a weapon in their hand (held correctly no less, as though it were an easy thing to master for a bunch of terrified ex hostages ro know how to hold one) seemed out of a &quot;modern&quot; action movie and not something that could be seen realistically.
Now, if i consider that this all happens in a different timeline in a science fiction setting, that could work...still the fact he survived the plane crashing is really pushing it.
All in all, good fighting scenes, though quite predictable (the german guy getting chucked out of the plane with the bomb was just extremely obvious)and no depth. I neither liked nor disliked it, I was left indifferent which is way worse.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I for one agree entirely with the review. It&#8217;s not that I don&#8217;t love some blood and action but by the time of the hanging&#8230;I just couldn&#8217;t suspend disbelief anymore. I mean, to be fair, the arrival of the germans just made me think of a 1944 version of Mad Max and for some reason (I know why scenaristically but still) the germans and finnish all speak english?? There were so many little things that did not make sense. The germans had no morality at all, no qualm Killing each other for gold (although it&#8217;s not even really said).<br />
The movie just feels aimless and useless. I like SOME character development and there was none, no doubt, no regret from anyone, no trauma either. The girls were no worse off even though they ahd to walk through mines while it was enough to kill off experienced soldiers.<br />
Also, must I mention the anachronistic feeling of it all? This scene with all the girls walking side by side, a weapon in their hand (held correctly no less, as though it were an easy thing to master for a bunch of terrified ex hostages ro know how to hold one) seemed out of a &#8220;modern&#8221; action movie and not something that could be seen realistically.<br />
Now, if i consider that this all happens in a different timeline in a science fiction setting, that could work&#8230;still the fact he survived the plane crashing is really pushing it.<br />
All in all, good fighting scenes, though quite predictable (the german guy getting chucked out of the plane with the bomb was just extremely obvious)and no depth. I neither liked nor disliked it, I was left indifferent which is way worse.</p>
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		By: Taylor Holmes		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Jul 2023 11:40:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://taylorholmes.com/2023/05/21/insane-movie-sisu-ending-explained/#comment-1177801&quot;&gt;Nicholas&lt;/a&gt;.

Take it down? Hahahahaha. Yeah. No. This post is glorious discussion am argument fodder. Look at all the ink you spilled attempting to prove me wrong?!?  Even if I am wrong, ESPECIALLY if I am wrong, there’s absolutely no way I am taking this post down. 

Secondly, you’ve obviously have never been here before and you just typed into the google - “SISU explained” and up came my past at number one… which is probably what chaps your hide more than anything. But if you had been here before, you’d know that’s what we do here, think about movies that make you think. Full stop. Sure, movies are entertaining… granted. But we mainly are here to do movie post mortems with the express intent of trying to figure out what makes them tick. And all movies - including “mindlessly entertaining ones” have a logic to them. Maybe especially mindless ones. 

I spoke just this past week with an enormous Hollywood director after reading his new script - and all about the internal logic of the film. It’s a screenplay that works and feels just like SISU. And we talked about the motivations of his heroes, about the prime movers that launch the story forward… and about consistency. 

And I will say this - there has become a new wave of action movies that I am not a super huge fan of. And I think they come from the CGI/Marvel-ization of movie making. And that is the non-stop action move. Like, literally. Not hyperbolically. The Wicks franchise being a great example. I think it’s fine people like them. I think it’s fine they exist. But when you don’t develop characters, and you don’t embed them in a reality that matters? It just cheapens the movie making experience down to the absolute “coolest” death stunt, or car chase maneuver. 

Personally, give me well written characters, with good backstories, and a single room? And I’m happy. Primer - thank you very much. Upstream Color. Yes please. 10x10. Oh yeah. SISU and Wick are just ballet for those who are out of touch with the finer arts. Not hyperbole. Literally - wick is just ballet with guns. 

You guys can keep coming at me - please do! I love it. And the more entrenched your argument the more obvious it becomes that I am getting to you. SISU is a groundless action movie that could have been solved by a different final (and first) line of dialogue. But they chose not to. So I’m not letting up.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://taylorholmes.com/2023/05/21/insane-movie-sisu-ending-explained/#comment-1177801">Nicholas</a>.</p>
<p>Take it down? Hahahahaha. Yeah. No. This post is glorious discussion am argument fodder. Look at all the ink you spilled attempting to prove me wrong?!?  Even if I am wrong, ESPECIALLY if I am wrong, there’s absolutely no way I am taking this post down. </p>
<p>Secondly, you’ve obviously have never been here before and you just typed into the google &#8211; “SISU explained” and up came my past at number one… which is probably what chaps your hide more than anything. But if you had been here before, you’d know that’s what we do here, think about movies that make you think. Full stop. Sure, movies are entertaining… granted. But we mainly are here to do movie post mortems with the express intent of trying to figure out what makes them tick. And all movies &#8211; including “mindlessly entertaining ones” have a logic to them. Maybe especially mindless ones. </p>
<p>I spoke just this past week with an enormous Hollywood director after reading his new script &#8211; and all about the internal logic of the film. It’s a screenplay that works and feels just like SISU. And we talked about the motivations of his heroes, about the prime movers that launch the story forward… and about consistency. </p>
<p>And I will say this &#8211; there has become a new wave of action movies that I am not a super huge fan of. And I think they come from the CGI/Marvel-ization of movie making. And that is the non-stop action move. Like, literally. Not hyperbolically. The Wicks franchise being a great example. I think it’s fine people like them. I think it’s fine they exist. But when you don’t develop characters, and you don’t embed them in a reality that matters? It just cheapens the movie making experience down to the absolute “coolest” death stunt, or car chase maneuver. </p>
<p>Personally, give me well written characters, with good backstories, and a single room? And I’m happy. Primer &#8211; thank you very much. Upstream Color. Yes please. 10&#215;10. Oh yeah. SISU and Wick are just ballet for those who are out of touch with the finer arts. Not hyperbole. Literally &#8211; wick is just ballet with guns. </p>
<p>You guys can keep coming at me &#8211; please do! I love it. And the more entrenched your argument the more obvious it becomes that I am getting to you. SISU is a groundless action movie that could have been solved by a different final (and first) line of dialogue. But they chose not to. So I’m not letting up.</p>
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		By: Nicholas		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Jul 2023 07:02:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[You have this inane idea that all movies need to make you think. Let me make this clear… they don’t. Movies exist first and foremost for the purpose of entertainment and this movie succeeds in that regard, and not because you made some notion on your own that they need to be morally perfect (in the way that you see it no less). Just say you don’t know what you’re talking about man and quite the projection of morals bs. It’s so simple they literally told you what the movie was about start to finish in the title… unwavering determination, that’s it. It never pretended to have some moral message, not even once.
 
Also, if morals did matter to this movie I believe you would still be wrong. You know what’s arguably more morally questionable? WANTING to participate in war and kill people. People aren’t driven by the idea that other people should need to die. No sense of nationalism will make people actively want war, if it does those people are morally corrupt. They made it explicitly clear he was done with that, which if you ever actually looked into the history of wars is a pretty WIDELY shared sentiment among individuals.

Lastly, even seeking revenge and killing to get back to his gold I would argue is not morally corrupt. Why? Probably because the movie showed and gave you and the protagonist of Sisu every reason on a silver platter to hate every single nazi that was killed, not that you should truly have needed a reason to but it still went out of its way to do that (not even Inglorious Bastards went this far to do the same). Killed horse, raped women, used women as fodder to clear mines, tried to murder dog, taped bomb to dog, burned village, hung innocents, treated comrades as expendable, betrayed comrades unexpectedly, attempted murder over and over again the whole movie plus theft just over gold. He had every reason to kill them.

It’s plainly evident you didn’t understand the direction of the movie or the message. Keeping your post up will only serve to misdirect others who haven’t seen it into believing the movie is trying to be something that it’s not (moralistic) by giving them an extremely biased perspective of the film. This really all just boils down to the film not being for you in the end.

Thank god to all the commenters who provided unbiased perspectives that can give page visitors a more accurate view.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You have this inane idea that all movies need to make you think. Let me make this clear… they don’t. Movies exist first and foremost for the purpose of entertainment and this movie succeeds in that regard, and not because you made some notion on your own that they need to be morally perfect (in the way that you see it no less). Just say you don’t know what you’re talking about man and quite the projection of morals bs. It’s so simple they literally told you what the movie was about start to finish in the title… unwavering determination, that’s it. It never pretended to have some moral message, not even once.</p>
<p>Also, if morals did matter to this movie I believe you would still be wrong. You know what’s arguably more morally questionable? WANTING to participate in war and kill people. People aren’t driven by the idea that other people should need to die. No sense of nationalism will make people actively want war, if it does those people are morally corrupt. They made it explicitly clear he was done with that, which if you ever actually looked into the history of wars is a pretty WIDELY shared sentiment among individuals.</p>
<p>Lastly, even seeking revenge and killing to get back to his gold I would argue is not morally corrupt. Why? Probably because the movie showed and gave you and the protagonist of Sisu every reason on a silver platter to hate every single nazi that was killed, not that you should truly have needed a reason to but it still went out of its way to do that (not even Inglorious Bastards went this far to do the same). Killed horse, raped women, used women as fodder to clear mines, tried to murder dog, taped bomb to dog, burned village, hung innocents, treated comrades as expendable, betrayed comrades unexpectedly, attempted murder over and over again the whole movie plus theft just over gold. He had every reason to kill them.</p>
<p>It’s plainly evident you didn’t understand the direction of the movie or the message. Keeping your post up will only serve to misdirect others who haven’t seen it into believing the movie is trying to be something that it’s not (moralistic) by giving them an extremely biased perspective of the film. This really all just boils down to the film not being for you in the end.</p>
<p>Thank god to all the commenters who provided unbiased perspectives that can give page visitors a more accurate view.</p>
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		By: Mike		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jun 2023 04:08:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thanks Jay/ AJ (lol so clever). Taylor made some great points. Enjoyed the movie, saw Taylor&#039;s and everyone else&#039;s points. Meh... it&#039;s all about what I got out of it though isn&#039;t it? No need to be a troll though Jay or AJ.. Whatever...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Jay/ AJ (lol so clever). Taylor made some great points. Enjoyed the movie, saw Taylor&#8217;s and everyone else&#8217;s points. Meh&#8230; it&#8217;s all about what I got out of it though isn&#8217;t it? No need to be a troll though Jay or AJ.. Whatever&#8230;</p>
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		By: AJ		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jun 2023 05:20:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Jay is correct. At least we have people commenting with legitimate reviews. Thanks Jim, David and Christopher!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jay is correct. At least we have people commenting with legitimate reviews. Thanks Jim, David and Christopher!</p>
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		By: Taylor Holmes		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jun 2023 15:13:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://taylorholmes.com/2023/05/21/insane-movie-sisu-ending-explained/#comment-1175900&quot;&gt;Jay&lt;/a&gt;.

Jay - a truer thing was never said - but I take it as a compliment you think this my job. Or my profession. So I got that going for me today. 

I get it that most - 99%? - loved this movie. I enjoyed it on the merits. But what you aren’t understanding is that I’m making a moral point. When the writers chose WWII as their basis for this fictional flight of fancy, they screwed up. At a time when the world needs him, and his obvious skills at killing, he took a vacation to pan for gold. Possibly the most self serving, and selfish human on the planet. And then, when he found it - the gold - all he could think about was protecting it and nothing else. 

That’s the point I was making. And everyone reading this piece - and it’s been well over, hold please, 50,000 people who have tripped through here since I wrote it - disagrees. And that is fine! Great even. I do not try to run in the mainstream of thought for movies. You and the normal movie watching ilk can prefer Marvel movie cotton candy as opposed to movies that will make you think or push you intellectually. Great. But that isn’t what I do here. If you wanted a glass tipping to this technicolor blood splattering - head to ain’t it cool, or hell, rotten tomatoes. Both have their purposes. 

So no, with your comment, I am not suddenly going to say - damn… you are right, I should get another job. And I should write about movies in a more mainstream way. Not happening. I believe in the movie watching audience. I believe that they can think, as opposed to slurping down more insipid pablum. 

Did I like the movie? Yeah sure. Minus the fact that the hero wasn’t heroic. That’s all. But thanks for adding to the page views and reads Jay. Better yet, thanks for commenting and kicking that SEO juice up just one more notch! Hahahah.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://taylorholmes.com/2023/05/21/insane-movie-sisu-ending-explained/#comment-1175900">Jay</a>.</p>
<p>Jay &#8211; a truer thing was never said &#8211; but I take it as a compliment you think this my job. Or my profession. So I got that going for me today. </p>
<p>I get it that most &#8211; 99%? &#8211; loved this movie. I enjoyed it on the merits. But what you aren’t understanding is that I’m making a moral point. When the writers chose WWII as their basis for this fictional flight of fancy, they screwed up. At a time when the world needs him, and his obvious skills at killing, he took a vacation to pan for gold. Possibly the most self serving, and selfish human on the planet. And then, when he found it &#8211; the gold &#8211; all he could think about was protecting it and nothing else. </p>
<p>That’s the point I was making. And everyone reading this piece &#8211; and it’s been well over, hold please, 50,000 people who have tripped through here since I wrote it &#8211; disagrees. And that is fine! Great even. I do not try to run in the mainstream of thought for movies. You and the normal movie watching ilk can prefer Marvel movie cotton candy as opposed to movies that will make you think or push you intellectually. Great. But that isn’t what I do here. If you wanted a glass tipping to this technicolor blood splattering &#8211; head to ain’t it cool, or hell, rotten tomatoes. Both have their purposes. </p>
<p>So no, with your comment, I am not suddenly going to say &#8211; damn… you are right, I should get another job. And I should write about movies in a more mainstream way. Not happening. I believe in the movie watching audience. I believe that they can think, as opposed to slurping down more insipid pablum. </p>
<p>Did I like the movie? Yeah sure. Minus the fact that the hero wasn’t heroic. That’s all. But thanks for adding to the page views and reads Jay. Better yet, thanks for commenting and kicking that SEO juice up just one more notch! Hahahah.</p>
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