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		By: Rock		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2020 18:40:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Understand I&#039;m a little late to this party, or perhaps I joined in one of the later loops. As with many of the comments above, I loved this movie even if there are certain paradoxes that aren&#039;t explained. I had two points I wanted to bring up.

First, I didn&#039;t see anywhere that anyone had pointed out that the name of the evil organization, Torus, is also the word for a geometric shape, which is the shape of a donut, or a circle. It doesn&#039;t really have any impact on the discoveries of the story, but I think it does symbolically represent the obvious circular time loop as well as hinting at the ever present or ongoing threat of the evil corporation out there.

Second point, there have been a lot of speculations about why certain things are happening outside of the barrier versus inside the barrier and I like several of the different ways people proposed this could be explained, and I have one myself. A lot of people assumed that while time loops inside the barrier and continues to progress in a linear fashion outside the barrier, but we don&#039;t necessarily know this is the case. As a for instance, its possible since there are two cycles, the smaller 3:14:15 hour loop, and the larger 9-cycle loop. So perhaps the boundary we see is boundary for the three hour loop, while there is a larger circumference boundary that exists for the nine-cycle loop (so the ZMPs are nearby but inside the second loop, and they get a one call within a nine-loop cycle). Or, another explanation entirely could be that time doesn&#039;t proceed in a linear fashion outside, and instead hasn&#039;t progressed at all. What this would mean is that those in the loop are actually brought back to their original point in time, so when Sonny calls for backup, there is only ever one call. Those outside the bubble don&#039;t get thousands of calls, because the loop sends them back to the same point over and over and over again. So outside they aren&#039;t exactly repeating the bubble, but the thousands of iterations inside the bubble all happen in the same span of time that takes place outside the bubble. 

Final thought. As to the whether the movie has a pessimistic or optimistic view, I have to agree that no matter how many iterations they go through, it would only take one &#039;correct&#039; iteration for a positive outcome, while it would take infinite failures to confirm the negative outcome. Since we can see that they were able to make small improvements to the recording from the previous loop, they are incrementally getting closer and closer to succeeding, even if it does take a lot of attempts. Practice makes perfect.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Understand I&#8217;m a little late to this party, or perhaps I joined in one of the later loops. As with many of the comments above, I loved this movie even if there are certain paradoxes that aren&#8217;t explained. I had two points I wanted to bring up.</p>
<p>First, I didn&#8217;t see anywhere that anyone had pointed out that the name of the evil organization, Torus, is also the word for a geometric shape, which is the shape of a donut, or a circle. It doesn&#8217;t really have any impact on the discoveries of the story, but I think it does symbolically represent the obvious circular time loop as well as hinting at the ever present or ongoing threat of the evil corporation out there.</p>
<p>Second point, there have been a lot of speculations about why certain things are happening outside of the barrier versus inside the barrier and I like several of the different ways people proposed this could be explained, and I have one myself. A lot of people assumed that while time loops inside the barrier and continues to progress in a linear fashion outside the barrier, but we don&#8217;t necessarily know this is the case. As a for instance, its possible since there are two cycles, the smaller 3:14:15 hour loop, and the larger 9-cycle loop. So perhaps the boundary we see is boundary for the three hour loop, while there is a larger circumference boundary that exists for the nine-cycle loop (so the ZMPs are nearby but inside the second loop, and they get a one call within a nine-loop cycle). Or, another explanation entirely could be that time doesn&#8217;t proceed in a linear fashion outside, and instead hasn&#8217;t progressed at all. What this would mean is that those in the loop are actually brought back to their original point in time, so when Sonny calls for backup, there is only ever one call. Those outside the bubble don&#8217;t get thousands of calls, because the loop sends them back to the same point over and over and over again. So outside they aren&#8217;t exactly repeating the bubble, but the thousands of iterations inside the bubble all happen in the same span of time that takes place outside the bubble. </p>
<p>Final thought. As to the whether the movie has a pessimistic or optimistic view, I have to agree that no matter how many iterations they go through, it would only take one &#8216;correct&#8217; iteration for a positive outcome, while it would take infinite failures to confirm the negative outcome. Since we can see that they were able to make small improvements to the recording from the previous loop, they are incrementally getting closer and closer to succeeding, even if it does take a lot of attempts. Practice makes perfect.</p>
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		By: Kyle M		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Aug 2020 03:31:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m surprised no one explicitly brought up Nietzsche&#039;s &quot;The Heaviest Burden&quot; which is even referenced in the movie by the Pope.

It feels pessimistic but I feel like this reference is alluding to the loop in the movie going on infinitely.

&quot;The Heaviest Burden. 

What if a demon crept after you into your loneliest loneliness some day or night, and said to you: &quot;This life, as you live it at present, and have lived it, you must live it once more, and also innumerable times; and there will be nothing new in it, but every pain and every joy and every thought and every sigh, and all the unspeakably small and great in thy life must come to you again, and all in the same series and sequence - and similarly this spider and this moonlight among the trees, and similarly this moment, and I myself. The eternal sand-glass of existence will ever be turned once more, and you with it, you speck of dust!&quot; - Would you not throw yourself down and gnash your teeth, and curse the demon that so spoke? Or have you once experienced a tremendous moment in which you would answer him: &quot;You are a God, and never did I hear anything so divine!&quot; If that thought acquired power over you as you are, it would transform you, and perhaps crush you; the question with regard to all and everything: &quot;Do you want this once more, and also for innumerable times?&quot; would lie as the heaviest burden upon your activity! Or, how would you have to become favourably inclined to yourself and to life, so as to long for nothing more ardently than for this last eternal sanctioning and sealing?&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m surprised no one explicitly brought up Nietzsche&#8217;s &#8220;The Heaviest Burden&#8221; which is even referenced in the movie by the Pope.</p>
<p>It feels pessimistic but I feel like this reference is alluding to the loop in the movie going on infinitely.</p>
<p>&#8220;The Heaviest Burden. </p>
<p>What if a demon crept after you into your loneliest loneliness some day or night, and said to you: &#8220;This life, as you live it at present, and have lived it, you must live it once more, and also innumerable times; and there will be nothing new in it, but every pain and every joy and every thought and every sigh, and all the unspeakably small and great in thy life must come to you again, and all in the same series and sequence &#8211; and similarly this spider and this moonlight among the trees, and similarly this moment, and I myself. The eternal sand-glass of existence will ever be turned once more, and you with it, you speck of dust!&#8221; &#8211; Would you not throw yourself down and gnash your teeth, and curse the demon that so spoke? Or have you once experienced a tremendous moment in which you would answer him: &#8220;You are a God, and never did I hear anything so divine!&#8221; If that thought acquired power over you as you are, it would transform you, and perhaps crush you; the question with regard to all and everything: &#8220;Do you want this once more, and also for innumerable times?&#8221; would lie as the heaviest burden upon your activity! Or, how would you have to become favourably inclined to yourself and to life, so as to long for nothing more ardently than for this last eternal sanctioning and sealing?&#8221;</p>
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		By: scott biales		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2020 04:19:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m shocked how no one has mentioned the significance of the start and end times for the time loop.  The difference in time is the constant pi:

start&#062; 06:11:06:03   end&#062; 09:25:21:09   complete

   09:25:21:09 - 06:11:06:03 =  3:14:15:  6. -&#062; 3.14159 = pi (to the first 6 digits).

The significance of the time values being equal to pi is that time here is circular.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m shocked how no one has mentioned the significance of the start and end times for the time loop.  The difference in time is the constant pi:</p>
<p>start&gt; 06:11:06:03   end&gt; 09:25:21:09   complete</p>
<p>   09:25:21:09 &#8211; 06:11:06:03 =  3:14:15:  6. -&gt; 3.14159 = pi (to the first 6 digits).</p>
<p>The significance of the time values being equal to pi is that time here is circular.</p>
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		By: L		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Aug 2019 17:55:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This is the first movie review I read and I&#039;m impressed!

The only thing I didn&#039;t like is how you get the &quot;9 loops in sequence&quot; wrong. They are not always 9! It&#039;s when Sonney power-offs the ARQ when the sequence ends. So they just need to succeed before he remembers and fucks them over. The video is VERY helpful! In the next sequence, our guys will see the video, know to work together and not kill each other and succeed way before the 9th loop.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is the first movie review I read and I&#8217;m impressed!</p>
<p>The only thing I didn&#8217;t like is how you get the &#8220;9 loops in sequence&#8221; wrong. They are not always 9! It&#8217;s when Sonney power-offs the ARQ when the sequence ends. So they just need to succeed before he remembers and fucks them over. The video is VERY helpful! In the next sequence, our guys will see the video, know to work together and not kill each other and succeed way before the 9th loop.</p>
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		By: Taylor Holmes		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2018 02:17:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://taylorholmes.com/2016/09/19/arq-movie-reviewed-explained-discussed-live/#comment-965888&quot;&gt;Luke&lt;/a&gt;.

Thanks Luke - glad you enjoyed it. If you liked ARQ, check out Time Lapse. Same kind of tight construction world, and similar time dynamic. 
https://taylorholmes.com/2015/05/12/time-travel-movie-time-lapse-explained/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://taylorholmes.com/2016/09/19/arq-movie-reviewed-explained-discussed-live/#comment-965888">Luke</a>.</p>
<p>Thanks Luke &#8211; glad you enjoyed it. If you liked ARQ, check out Time Lapse. Same kind of tight construction world, and similar time dynamic.<br />
<a href="https://taylorholmes.com/2015/05/12/time-travel-movie-time-lapse-explained/" rel="ugc">https://taylorholmes.com/2015/05/12/time-travel-movie-time-lapse-explained/</a></p>
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		By: Luke		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2018 23:56:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Another great taylorholmes recommendation, loved it.  I haven’t had the chance to read all the comments but the one things that sticks in my memory is the paper with “sky” written on it the the dead guys mouth.  I don’t understand how it got there and what it means.  I know it’s the shutdown code so it seemed like a message telling them to just give up and just shut it down.   But it’s not like you could paper on his mouth on a previous loop and then it would still be there in a later loop right.  Why would they need to write it down when would remember the word sky anyway, at least in the whole 9 loop series thing.  Was it in his mouth when he was alive to? It’s such a stupid little moment and I’m probably just missing the super obvious explanation but it’s driving me nuts.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another great taylorholmes recommendation, loved it.  I haven’t had the chance to read all the comments but the one things that sticks in my memory is the paper with “sky” written on it the the dead guys mouth.  I don’t understand how it got there and what it means.  I know it’s the shutdown code so it seemed like a message telling them to just give up and just shut it down.   But it’s not like you could paper on his mouth on a previous loop and then it would still be there in a later loop right.  Why would they need to write it down when would remember the word sky anyway, at least in the whole 9 loop series thing.  Was it in his mouth when he was alive to? It’s such a stupid little moment and I’m probably just missing the super obvious explanation but it’s driving me nuts.</p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Aug 2018 10:13:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jun 2018 23:48:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Fascinating comments!
I wonder though, about the connections to the outside world... is it possible that the world really has been completely destroyed and that Toros is actually run by AI - that Sonny’s call for backup is thought to be with real people but it’s not really? And is it possible that one of the ways to solve this is to get Hannah to that safe house so that they can realize that humanity has been destroyed and that they’re the only ones left? Which, if that’s the case, there really is no Bloc to bring the ARQ to and there’s no hope at all. So I wonder if they’re destined to be stuck in their own little hell for eternity because if they break the loop, what would it mean anyway?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fascinating comments!<br />
I wonder though, about the connections to the outside world&#8230; is it possible that the world really has been completely destroyed and that Toros is actually run by AI &#8211; that Sonny’s call for backup is thought to be with real people but it’s not really? And is it possible that one of the ways to solve this is to get Hannah to that safe house so that they can realize that humanity has been destroyed and that they’re the only ones left? Which, if that’s the case, there really is no Bloc to bring the ARQ to and there’s no hope at all. So I wonder if they’re destined to be stuck in their own little hell for eternity because if they break the loop, what would it mean anyway?</p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Feb 2018 19:59:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Time loops aside. The names... Father, Brother, Son, Cuz. And Renton backwards is Not ner (NER - named entity recognition). So Renton is potentially not named. Could it be that Hannah never escaped and her torture continues? Maybe her name reflects the fact that she is the only one caught in this time loop and the other players are computer generated characters. Maybe the torture has been going on so long that she is the only human left on earth. At least it shows that the program intended to break her doesn&#039;t work - after thousands of loops she remains true to her cause. When Renton finally trusts her and agrees she&#039;s right, this interrupts the program written to torment her and she is finally able to wake up. Renton stays asleep because the program is completed. She is free.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Time loops aside. The names&#8230; Father, Brother, Son, Cuz. And Renton backwards is Not ner (NER &#8211; named entity recognition). So Renton is potentially not named. Could it be that Hannah never escaped and her torture continues? Maybe her name reflects the fact that she is the only one caught in this time loop and the other players are computer generated characters. Maybe the torture has been going on so long that she is the only human left on earth. At least it shows that the program intended to break her doesn&#8217;t work &#8211; after thousands of loops she remains true to her cause. When Renton finally trusts her and agrees she&#8217;s right, this interrupts the program written to torment her and she is finally able to wake up. Renton stays asleep because the program is completed. She is free.</p>
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