The Invitation Movie Discussed with Phil Hay and Explained
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This is the portion of the blog when I resurrect movies you haven’t seen – the movies that slid under everyone’s radar, and requires me to resurface them all over again. And you are welcome… because The Invitation is one of my favorite movies I’ve talked about on this blog. Literally. And yet, I recommended this movie to my brother-in-law the other day, and he began reevaluating our relationship. Which works for me. Because who needs family when you have movies like this to keep you company?!? Watch it right here. Alright – here we go “The Invitation Movie Discussed with Phil Hay and Explained…”

The Invitation Overview

The setup on this movie is actually pretty critical to the conclusion and that amazing plot twist ending. We have a group of friends that haven’t seen each other for a couple years. But they are all called back together again to catch up again. To find out what they’ve all been up to and to possibly even make amends? Many of the friends have moved on, have new spouses, boyfriends, etc so it makes the reunion complicated, to put it lightly.

And on top of all that (underneath all that?) there was an event that happened that caused the key couple in the center of it all to split and go different directions. So that is raising memories in an entirely different level and sends the viewer in entirely different directions.

If you enjoy movies driven by dialogue, by intrigue, and by interesting characters… then this movie will work for you. It is a little slow for the first hour. And yet, if you aren’t paying attention just know you are going to miss it. Miss where the movie is going and the intensity of the last 30 minutes. (Which, I have to say is fantastic.) So if surprise twist movies are your thing… if you dig movies with onion skin layers unraveling before your eyes… then The Invitation is definitely for you. Ok? Why don’t we do the trailer… and then don’t go lower. Because from then on out it’ll be spoiler territory. Great. Because the last thing I want to do is to ruin the movie for you. Go see it first.

Alright, seriously, I’m planning to dive in now… Go watch and come back.

The Invitation Setup

As I mentioned above, there is a bit of setup that occurs over the first 60 minutes. Quite a lot of scaffolding that gets put into place before we can start into our Invitation Doctoral Thesis work. We have relationships that are established. Current day friendships, marriages, who’s dating whom… etc. We also start finding out about how they are today. Not the whys, but a lot of the what’s happen pretty early on.

We also get some detail around a bit of their pasts and how they are different today. We get a few vagueries about prime movers, but mostly we get a ton of detail about the fact that most everyone in this movie has changed. Some for the better. Some for the worse. And some for the apparent better, but actually for the worse? And that is the question of this movie – the penultimate, driving force of this whole movie – is the question, ‘what the heck is going on here?’ Something happened to some of these people. What happened? Why did it happen? And what does it mean?

This entire movie is loaded with these questions, what happened and what does it mean?

The Invitation Movie Characters

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There are two characters in this movie that really matter. The first character we should dive in on is Will. Will is separated from Eden, and is now with Kira. Right? Was with Eden. Now with Kira. The invitation has come from Eden and his been given to Will (her ex) and Kira (her competition) to come to Eden and Will’s old home. To return. To come back for the first time in the past several years.  Right? Hello? We have new Will (with Beard) and old Will (sans Beard) and we see just how different these two Wills are. And yet, we don’t fully understand the details that have caused this Will bifurcation. But we can see through flashbacks, both Wills. Side by side.

The Invitation Movie Discussed with Phil Hay and Explained

Then we have Eden. Will’s previous significant other. They had two children together. Which, actually takes a while to completely come out. Because something terrible has happened here. Something tragic has occurred. And Eden basically went insane because of it. She was a headcase. A mental headjob. It was lucky that Will made it out of that relationship alive. Right? It was good for him to get out, save his skin. It was good for Will to move on with Kira. To try and to start over.

And Eden? She needed to do something. Anything to return from the brink. She needed to pull it back from the edge, and do something differently. And so Eden meets up with David. And then something happens. We aren’t told what, or how, or when… but David and Eden head of to Mexico somewhere to a retreat. And it is while they are at this retreat that Eden completely transforms. She let’s go of the past, and she chooses to forgive. Eden decides that the chaos of the past isn’t worth carrying forward into the future. She willfully chooses to be different.

There are also other bit players that come and go and move in and out of this story. But they matter way less than the rest of the players.

The Invitation Movie and the Son?

One of the key details that is buried deep within the wounds of the characters is the event with Will and Eden’s son. We don’t know much about how their son died, but after being called out by Shabrina for thinking they had had two sons, and one had accidentally killed the other I contacted Phil Hay and he informed just how sad, and wrong I was on this point. Apparently Will and Eden had one son. And their son was accidentally killed by another boy, family friend. But I while I was wrong originally, it wasn’t for a lack of trying. I had even read deeply into the script for the answer to this particular riddle. Here is the detail I had originally found in the script:

She is not looking at him. He watches her. He says her name. She doesn’t hear him, doesn’t look over at him. She looks closed to him. Like a person he doesn’t know.


Will runs. Pushing through people. The older boy is crying. He holds an aluminum baseball bat.

WILL – What did you do? What did you do?

Eden is on her knees in front of them. She screams.


Will’s face. The sound of the conversation rises into a cacophony.

But we basically get that same information from the movie itself. There is a bat involved, and the older child has done something to the younger one. Was it malicious? Was it an accident? The yelling from Will seems to indicate that he may have thought it was intentional? I don’t really think we can know much beyond that without any level of certainty. But thanks Shabrina for pointing out my flawed understanding!

The Invitation Has TONS of Potential Energy
This situation is LADEN with potential. Reminds me of learning about “potential energy” in middle school. Rock rolled up to the top of a hill? Potential energy. Nitrogen? Potential energy. A powder keg, with a book of matches sitting next to it? Potential energy. An invitation from your ex? To come visit your old house? To catch up? Potential energy. We have all the elements, piled up, ready for ignition. Major Tom to Ground Control…

This is a slow burn movie. It carefully, and intentionally, assembles the flawed pieces of this jigsaw puzzle. This movie slowly and intentionally crafts the ins and outs of these lives, these stories, and backstories. This movie may even be seen as boring for many who don’t understand the power of a well orchestrated movie brimming with potential energy. This story, is a powder keg, at the top of a hill, with a lit fuse, and it’s starting to roll now… This movie has a LOT of potential energy. You get it.

The Invitation Movie Discussed with Phil Hay and Explained

The Invitation Movie Mechanics

I just found a copy of the script and voraciously read through it from beginning to end. I had a ton of questions that I was dying to know that the movie didn’t explicitly clear up. But it is important to note one very specific moment in The Invitation. And that is the toast. That is the moment when the potential energy becomes real energy. That is the moment when the movie crests the hill and starts galloping downhill. Because while everyone is upset with Will for ruining the toast, and hurting Sadie, Gina is lying on the floor, foaming at the mouth. And that is when we finally realize that Will isn’t insane. That will is actually the only one who knows what is going down here at this “dinner party”. Right?

So, starting with Gina, the members of the party quickly begin getting executed. While Gina is on the floor, Miguel attempts to revive her with CPR, but is shot by David. Two down. Pruitt then takes the gun from David while Kira, Ben, and Will take cover. Pruitt then kills Choi by shooting him before heading elsewhere in the house. Ben, Kira, and Will book it and try to escape the house to no avail. And along the way the find Tommy. Tommy bum-rushes Eden, who is understandably angry because of the death of his boyfriend. Tommy gets stabbed by Eden, and Eden is critically injured. And Tommy appears dead as well. And as the situation continues to unravel it becomes clear that David is intent on everyone dying here tonight… We learn this from the response when he learns that Eden is dead, “that is good, she is with ‘them’ now.” And we also learn that goal of this attack was for the chosen to be allowed to leave the Earth, and to leave all of the hurt that they have been put through in this life.

This Mexican Cult basically espouses an interestingly morose method of sanctification. If I can infer from the video that was shown during the party, as well as from the comments from David… – in order to go to heaven/nirvana (or wherever), they were required to kill someone. This other person would ostensibly carry your pains, doubts, and sins, and free you from this burden I guess? They are the sacrifice that allows you to move onward. And that was what we were seeing in the film. So if that is the case, maybe the person we watched die wasn’t sick!? They were being killed solely to allow a member of their cult to move onward to heaven. Right? Or were we seeing someone that had already killed someone, that was now moving onward?

But there was also another big portion of this cult that was about bringing on the end of the world through a dinner party mechanic. Which, in an AVON PARTY sort of way, allowed them to send the most people on to this Nirvana maybe? Or, maybe it served a dual role in that it subjugated the earth and it’s deviance and also allowed this transition for as many people as humanly possible.

The Invitation Movie Turn

In my conversation that I had with Phil Hay I asked specifically about the turn. When did he know about the turn? The Red Lantern bit? M. Night always says that he didn’t know Bruce Willis was dead until rewrite number 87 or something. (I’ll talk about Phil’s response tomorrow when I publish our conversation and the details there.) But the RED LANTERN! David calmly walks out to the backyard, lights a red lantern and places it up on a hook for the surrounding area to see. And then walks back inside.

The reveal here is that the world is turning upside down tonight. Instead of a Jim Jones kool-aid experience at a mass scale, we are seeing cell groups working independently towards a larger goal. And what we have been witnessing is not a conversion experience, but rather an Armageddon experience. A reckoning per se. So, to that end, I have several theories about what is happening with all those fields of red lanterns we see.

The Invitation Option #1 The World In Flames

This theory espouses that this cult reached enormous prevalence down in Mexico. And through this prevalence, they were able to setup millions and millions of these end of the world parties. To determine a unified date, and a coordinated plan to impact the entire world all at once. These parties would both kill the attendees as well as the hosts, and in so doing would culminate as many people reaching this nirvana-esque place as possible.

Problems with theory #1 – Well, the math doesn’t add up. If Mexico is the rallying cry for this cult, then it’s going to need a ton of space and a ton of vacation locations for all these party hosts to learn, and plan and coordinate. Do the math with me. Let’s assume there are what, 7 billion people on the planet. You need a couple of people (at the very least) to host a party. Let’s just assume 3 on average, though that wasn’t what our party had. And then let’s say there are 7 attendees per 3 hosts? 10 total per party? Some more, some less?  Then that would mean that for this cult to wipe the planet clean there would need to be 700 million parties thrown concurrently.

Oh and another problem, the world is round? So as California is going up in flames new agencies around the world would be talking about it. Right? So it would be tipping the world off something was wrong. I’m not going to my Avon party later tonight! No way! hahah. Unless they were trying to wrangle people at 3 am. And that sounds doubtful too.

The Invitation Option #2 Hollywood In Flames

Ok so, I’m not personally buying theory #1 – even though the sheer quantity of lanterns seems to suggest as much. What about if this cult is just throwing its weight specifically at Hollywood, or maybe California? A smaller region. This would solve problem one and two with theory 1. Although, I can’t really think of a great motive, I mean beyond the fact that California is the land of fruits and nuts. Besides that. Regardless, this theory works from a scale and a scope standpoint. Even though I don’t know why a cult would do this.

The Invitation Option #3 A Phased Approach?

Now  this theory, theory 3, is the same as theory two, but maybe this cult is actually just warming up? They attack Hollywood and California? Then in 6 months they send out another Invitation date, with another entirely new phalanx of hosts and parties to be had? Then they could gradually, and repeatedly hit the earth with these Invitations? Maybe I should talk with the Director and find out? Excuse me mam, “The Invitation 2” – is it in Florida, or Moscow, or maybe Lima? Then we could get several questions answered at once depending on how he responds! haha.

The Invitation Movie Interview with Phil Hay

Speaking of talking with the director, please know this, Phil Hay, who co-wrote the screenplay was kind enough to answer a ton of questions about the movie for me. Phil Hay is the writer of a ton of stuff that you know, Aeon Flux, Clash of the Titans, Ride Along (1 & 2),  etc. etc. so it was a real privilege to get an opportunity to chat with him a little bit about this delightful movie. But I think I’ll post that conversation as a follow up. (We are already thousands of words in! Trust me here.) The link will go right —–> here once it’s ready. Promise. (I’m totally going to forget aren’t I?)

Almost 3000 words later I think we’ve talked through the big overarching themes and the enormous reveals of this movie. These were just the first three theories I could think of. What are your theories about how this movie went down? I’m sure yours will be better than mine on this one. I definitely want to hear them that is for sure. Soon we will discuss the interview with Phil Hay and maybe we’ll get some more answers to our questions.

YOU CAN CATCH THAT INTERVIEW RIGHT HERE. And if you’d like to find other movies like The Invitation – check out these three flicks right here.


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30 Responses

  1. Milind

    This movie is overrated on your website. I found this website after watching Coherence and then The Invitation with rating as if this is an awesome movie with an unexpected twist, but as it raised the bars I am highly disappointed with the type of audience your website has. How can someone rate 5 stars for twist ending wherein the character Will was always pointing us towards weird things happening around? Sure it was settled when Joy joined the plot; however, it wasn’t for that long until everything starts to happen. I didn’t go through your review and theories on this one that deep, but I don’t feel I would have thought of any theories. The ending simply means that the target was this particular area and they deliberately took the cellular towers down, there was nothing much to think of nor the movie was confusing at any point.

  2. Taylor Holmes

    Fair enough.
    I personally thought the twist of the red lantern and all the red lanterns of the hillside brilliant. The scale and scope of it changed dramatically. But the real “twist” ending of this movie was when it went from zero to a hundred in three seconds flat. The decision to not show the first person who died was critical to the passing. And then the movie took off.

    But you are right. Most movies I hunt for here are more like Exam – where there is a very real clever twist. Or synchronicity with that phone call at the end that blows your mind. Or time lapse, arq, or predestination that turn inside out as the movie ends. But they can’t all be that twisty good. Ok, so I shouldn’t have rated it quite as high. But I adored it even minus a surprise twist.

    Sorry to have mislead you. But I personally loved the film.

  3. Taylor Holmes

    By the way Milind – make sure the One I Love is on your list. That and oooh Time Lapse! And and and… no im going to stop. Those 4 should hold you over for a bit.


  4. Gabriel

    For me, acting deserves almost 5 stars, and “almost” just because Kira (Emayatzy Corinealdi) was in a lower level if compared to the rest of the cast. Other than that, I didn’t find the ending that surprising or twisting.
    The build-up is REALLY well-made and I’m looking forward to watching more movies like this. My list is expanding, and I’ll be watching Coherence tomorrow.

  5. Shabrina

    ok I checked and checked numerous times.. they had ONE KID.. exactly ONE. Will always said Our Son, and only use the subject HE, and only refer to the name Ty.. never any other names. where the heck did you get the idea that they have two children that dies in the backyard of their house?

  6. Taylor Holmes

    Hey there Shabrina,
    You are 100% right, and I was 100% wrong. First time that has ever happened. Gah. hahaha. I even pinged Phil Hay to double check. Here’s what I asked and his response:

    @tayoflore: “Hey @phillycarly – quick #Invitationmovie q? Did Will & Eden have 1 son or two? If 1, how did he die? I assumed 2, and 1 killed the other?”

    @phillycarly: “Hi… One son. He was accidentally killed playing with another boy.”

    So chalk one up for you Shabrina. Will need to circle back through and fix the blog post. I really honestly thought that there were two. No idea what crack I was smoking the night I first watched it, but it must have been the good stuff. Thanks for commenting!

    • Andrea

      Maybe because of the scene where they’re in the bath and she says “do you think he’s a brother” as if to say lets have another baby, but there’s no sign that they do.

    • Charle

      You probably thought 2 same reason as lots of us: there were 2 boys at the accident, and the wife pillow-talks w/ hubby about a brother for their son – smiles in agreements. So many flash-shots of the boy, hard to know if it is just 1 or 2 reappearing throughout. Thank you Mr. Holmes!

  7. Werner


    Just a thought, since many cults do joint suicidal acts.
    Mass suicide sometimes occurs in religious settings. Defeated groups may resort to mass suicide rather than being captured. Suicide pacts are a form of mass suicide that are sometimes planned or carried out by small groups of depressed or hopeless people.
    All the people at the table were holding the a glass including the hosts, and wanted to start drinking.

    At least now we know why Trump wants to build that wall!

  8. Rashad

    I took the abundance of red lanterns in this posh and upscale neighborhood to represent unhappiness and depression in affluent communities. Though wealth wasn’t necessarily a factor in the plot, a plethora of wealthy people are depressed. You can’t put a price tag on happiness.

  9. Carmen

    Hi! I really enjoyed your post, just watched the movie and was looking for something else to explain the end. I was wondering when will you be posting the interview with Phil Hay, or if you have it posted somewhere else and I don’t know where! Thank you in advance. XO

  10. Aristotle

    This was an enjoyable thriller as a fan of the genre. BUT. There’s nothing mind-bending about this. Patience-stretching more like it. I like slow burns but the wait here was taken too far methinks. And, with the short action part in the end, it doesn’t feel like it was worth the time it took to get there.

    OMG. I was about to reference You’re Next (2013) but it’s not here yet. This pales in comparison to that. You have to watch it.

  11. katie

    this movie reminds me of the Jonestown mass murder/mass suicide in 1978. expecially the ending and the video will sees in the office. I think the director may have taken some direction from this.

  12. katie

    and the red lanterns at the end signify that thousands of people in L.A are in this “cult” as they said earlier when they showed everybody the very first video of the so-called retreat that 1000’s of people go there, that they would all be surprised how they are everyday people from L.A. and just like them. so this was a mass murder/suicide all pre planned by their “leader” to take place on that specific night.

  13. HH

    Hi Taylor!
    This is my first comment on your site, but after enjoying so many of your movie recommendations – and your resourceful discussions – I thought I’d shout out for once. THiNC has become my second yardstick (apart from IMDb) for gauging movie quality before watching. Many of the movies that you *rightly* recommend don’t rate too highly on IMDb, so keep THiNC the independent forum that it is. It’s gotten you devoted friends in as far away as Germany.

    That said, I join other commenters in disagreeing about your take on The Invitation. It was unnerving, for sure, but not really surprising. (Gosh, I even saw the gun before it first got fired.) I can see, though, how you got to the second son. I’d like to believe that Will and Eden tried to get pregnant after their first son saw them in the bath tub, and that Eden was, in fact, pregnant (unbeknownst to Will?) when her first son got killed, whereupon a subsequent miscarriage or abortion drove her off the rails completely – but that’s wishful thinking.
    Regarding the finale, I didn’t see a world-ending conspiracy at all. I saw but 14 red lanterns (yes, I counted) and a much more brilliant metaphor in them:

    In my mind, they’re a subtle, but poignant commentary on how screwed-up Hollywood makes you. Think about it: Most of the visitors to Mexico were probably rich and spoilt Hollywood Hills kids, like coked-up record producer David. They returned and invited other spoilt Hollywood Hillers that were so shallow and superficial that they wouldn’t notice anything throughout the entire evening. Did you realize that Will and Kira were the only people we saw coming up from the valley? Everybody else was there from the start (or appeared from off-screen). And nobody, excepting Will, really CARED about what happened there. The other six guests (plus Choi MacGuffin) fulfilled what they saw as social obligations, like any other night in Hollywood, and were too distant to even notice the subtler distortions. Remember Will’s speech about the cult brain-washing everyone (just before Choi arrived)? Only the four hosts had been with the cult, but the other five guests behaved just as oblivious, superficially friendly, and politely offended by Will’s speech – implying that living in the Hollywood Hills may not be all that different from Mexican brainwashing. In this interpretation, The Invitation is a perfect summary of Hollywood superficiality and loneliness. (And stupidity, given how often Will reminded everyone that ALL doors are locked, but they still ran around checking each one without ever trying to force or break any of them. Duh.)

    But to give believers in the world-destruction metaphor some credit, too: In the very end, you see a close-up of Will grabbing Kira’s hand, which may be read as a shameless quote of Fight Club’s final scene ( The main villain just shot himself, two lovers are seen holding hands (“Trust me, everything’s gonna be fine…”), viewed from behind as they watch their world collapse (“You met me at a very strange time in my life.”), against a panoramic shot of – you guessed it – Los Angeles. Intriguing similarities, you say? If only it weren’t for the 1st RULE of The Invitation: You DO talk about The Invitation.

    • Taylor Holmes

      OH MY HEAVENS – what is happening!? HH, your comment is literally driving me to drink. Extensively. What is happening?!? hahaha. Anyway, here is my response to your comment that I posted on your behalf. If anyone else is seeing comment insanity happening, please email me! Dang….

      When I watched Creep 1, I realized there are certain types of dialogue that creep me out more than should be. Like scare me to death sort of wig out. Think, fight or flight response. And that is extremely vulnerable, or very ad-libbed type conversations. Obvious ad-libbing, makes me completely unsettled. The Creep 1 bath tub scene? Wow. And I am realizing that that happened throughout this movie. And while, I believe it was 100% scripted? Much of it came off as ad-libbed. So all that to say? I probably am not a good measure of movies like this. This sort of happened in The Pretty Girl That Lives in the House. Totally freaked me out! hahah.

      I like your take on the movie and the entitled Californian view of Mexico. This is a legit take regardless of the movie. 1st world elitism is a really pompous way to view the planet. Literally Hanjo? You and I are probably in the top 3% of the planet in terms of wealth. That you are reading this blog tells me alot about your position. That you probably have running water in your house, heck, you probably have hot water in your house! hahah. Hot showers? Top 3%. You and I view the world totally differently than the 97%. Now, jump to the top .001? The movie could be seen as a cleansing of that spoiled-ness, that rotten attitude. Etc. Which, truth be told, probably deserves a cleansing. But maybe that’s just me.

      But yeah, I definitely missed it on this one. Messed up on the second kid. Boy I wanted a second kid in this movie. Just made sense to my little brain. The gun! hahaha. Oh well. You win some you lose some. But at least I’m swinging for the fence each at bat. (Is that a German analogy that translates? What about football and shots on goal? At least I’m taking shots? Oh never mind.)

  14. John

    I loved the movie, i was terrified of the movie and mostly heartbroken by all of the themes in it. I’m not sure if the director and screenwriters wanted the audience to have closure or try to answer some of the obvious questions. Maybe some were supposed to be revealed during the story but maybe, more importantly, some were not and never would be ansewered. but i’m not sure. I did feel that it was inteneded to be A “Big Chill from the seventh circle of hell”. the group of friends/members are brought together by the death of a good friend. and we have a happy ending. But i felt for The Invitation, unknowinly, subconciously the friends members of the party were all brought intentionly/or unintentionally by the death of the son. all of the friends know about it, but they don’t want to discuss it and discuss why it happened and bring up buried feelings. In the Big Chill, it’s the opposite…the characters do discuss their friend dying in order to understand, though they WANT to avoid it. Reunions with friends are fragile and difficult or can be fun, celebrating the love there. Here, obviously the main purpose is destroyed by the death of the son….”the elephant in the room” that no one talks about. The “party crashers” are Eden’s new husband David, the crypt creeper Pruitt, and the borderline psychotic drifter sexpot. Will knows they are bad news and REALLY have no right to be there, but they are. They are part of Eden’s desperation to have evidence that she has changed from new people in her life, even if they are totally toxic and dangerous. I realized, for me, it taught me that films/stories don’t have closure….just like in life….in tragedy, life must continue on. You can learn to live with it….but it cannot be “something you GET OVER” Will knew this. Eden did not, though she tried, and it destroyed her. I think the lantern, the fact Eden wanted to be outside, the gay man and why HE survived as well, will and his girlfriend looking out into the night and all the lights…..the audience needs to come to their OWN conclusions….but what if their isn’t one? one thing i know for sure (for me anyway) is the fact that we hear sirens at first, but we’re not sure if they’re coming to help Will and his girlfriend and the gay man or not. Who would have called for help? Did the police find out from a neighbor who heard horrible screams? but my theory is that the police were NOT coming for them. Instead the increasing noises of the siren and the helicopter symbolize that NO ONE can ever be helped in horrifying situations, like this. the “savers”, in this case the LA police…..are always “heard” but never “seen” we know they are their to protect and serve but they never do. but the sirens just keep going, the helicopter never lands. the horrible tragedy has already happened….the survivors know that it’s too late to be saved. Will they ever find help in the way of “protectors”…..will they ever REALLY be saved in their minds from this sickening group asassination. Will says, “everything will be allright” but Will knows that it won’t be. and, we, the audience know it won’t be as well.

  15. Ankit

    The story explains itself at the start when protagonist killed the coyote to free from its pain. As the main theme of “the cult” was to free the oneself from pain and sufferings. I believe that accicdent was not that insignificant for the plot.

  16. Georgette

    I enjoyed a good portion of your post dissecting The Invitation’s mechanics and layers (although there are some points where you find yourself at a loss or amply ambivalent and with more questions than is fair to pile onto the reader who, presumably, is here for answers) but for the love of all that is confusing, I beseech you to use a proofreader! A spell-checker wouldn’t do; it should be someone who can infer meaning and catch malapropisms, phonetic flaws, honest confusions, and simple oversights. A debugger, so to speak.

    To be specific: laden, the word you mean to use (I’m almost certain) is laden, not “latent with potential energy,” and you “voraciously read through” the script, not veraciously. Also, “Pruitt kills Choi by shooting HIM,” not her. Choi is a boy.

    In the last paragraph you write, “we’ve talked through the big themes and the begin reveals,” but something is off… do you mean the beginning’s reveals/revelations during the film’s beginning?

    Please, none of this is meant as a put-down nor does it take away from the enjoyment of reading your casual and somewhat stream-of-consciousness styled analysis. I apologize if it comes across as such. I’m a copywriter, proofreader and translator myself and it appears I am never off the clock… For what it’s worth, I’m aware that grammar Nazis are annoying. I’m only pointing it out because everything else flowed well (garnished with a side of perplexing as it was, you set and followed a course); clearly your output is high-volume (can identify) and I figured that, if this comment is taken in the spirit it is given, you’d appreciate the suggestion. :-)

    • Taylor Holmes

      I didn’t take it personally at all. I actually appreciate it very much.
      If I would reread my posts even once they’d be infinitely better. But I totally hate reading my own writing. Which is why it was so nice for you to do it for me!! As soon as I get off this plane and get access to my computer again I’ll make the changes you so kindly found for me!

      Thanks a ton!

  17. Michele

    I’m an English professor and often find myself cringing as well. While I noticed Taylor’s snafus, his review didn’t contain any errors that, personally, drive me to drink. If I come across (for example) “. . . anyone can get THEIR . . .” -Or- “ . . . Blah blah blah with ‘him and I,’ ” I cease reading and move on! Taylor’s errors, I believe, are simply a result of typos and not ignorance- makes a huge difference to me- IMHO :)

    By the way, the character that left early in The Interview… was she killed by Pruitt (after he moved his car) before actually being permitted to leave? If not, doesn’t this defeat the hosts’ purpose?

    • Taylor Holmes

      Holy cow!
      Didn’t realize how hardcore people could be. Personally love the ideas of film but am impatient with the editing, the SEO, the links, the formatting necessary to make a post happen. I probably spend an hour writing and an hour fiddling with other crap. Not that the reader cares. But at the end of the day I don’t enjoy editing – like even more so than all the rest. It’s nice that CY edits all my posts now, but even that is one more thing to do. And all I really want to do is hang out at the local pub with you guys and chat movie ideas.

      But yes, I’m not a very good writer – definitely yield that immediately. So thanks for reading in spite of my inabilities!! Seriously.

  18. Michele

    Oh, don’t misread my comment! I was stating that your posts are FINE- just typos. It is MANY other bloggers’ styles that I can’t cope with! Hey, I have typos, too! No problem. I get it! Hey, by the way, we have a professional bar at home; come by anytime for a beer or cocktail :)

    So what about Pruitt and the character that left early? Did he kill her?

    • Taylor Holmes

      I actually saw the compliment. I did. I do need to ask CY to edit this post. She’s done basically the rest. Thanks for commenting Michele, and for putting up with me! hahaha.

    • Taylor Holmes

      What is a “professional bar”?!? I love the sound of it. Do you mean, like a high end pub that’s expensive?!? Hahah. Ie the bar goers are a little more exclusive. Dying to a see a link to their website! I must know more!! Gotta find one like it in my town.

      As for the Claire/Pruitt question – did you read my interview with Phil Hay? ( Maybe read that first and then decide if his answer makes sense. Then if not we can discuss it more. Phil stakes out two clear options. One that I found in his script. And one that he would like to have happen in his mind… if that isn’t too ambiguous.

  19. Dawn

    Well….and I know I’m coming late to “the party” here lol….but, my initial reaction, and I still feel it to be the most plausible in part, is that it affected the affluent community right there. The more I thought about it, I believe it may have affected many affluent communities. First off….unless dude in Mexico has a bottomless pit of money, how are so many people going to get down there to talk to him in the first place? Middle class and lower….uh uh….no matter how much grief or sadness they are suffering, any blue collar worker, or single mom, or member of poor communities, are going to be able to just take off and go to some self help seminar in Mexico. No time…no money. Plus, they wouldn’t be as swayed by “new age” type “science”. Also, communities that have strong religious beliefs already about God and their purpose here on earth wouldn’t be taken in by this guy anyway. So what I believe we’re looking at are communities of affluent people, with no established beliefs in anything beyond what they can see…..or buy perhaps. People who have suffered unimaginable losses; or just found that, in their endless pursuit for success, no amount of money actually brings true purpose or happiness. What better place to find these people than in the setting of the movie? I believe that what we saw in that ending was a concentrated part of a whole, but not one that even affected all of California, but may have affected many areas in the country as well as Mexico, but I don’t necessarily believe it affected the entire world. That’s still a devastating scale, and was a powerful visual. And is something I believe, if one were ambitious (and crazy) enough, could possibly be carried out. But I’ll put my tin foil away for now and just be thankful that I’m not affluent and already have my own set of beliefs

  20. Justin Levinsky

    I thought of an explanation that I could not find anywhere. After finishing the movie I was thinking back to all of the little scenes I was wondering about and the coyote one right at the beginning of the movie came to mind. I though there has to be some significance to that scene. And then it came to me that this scene opens up the movie to the main idea of the entire film – when one suffers through pain emotionally and physically we should end our misery through death. This is depicted as the main character kills the coyote after he hits it as he feels bad for the coyote and does not want it to suffer further. When the couple arrive at the party and people ask about the coyote the ex wife’s new husband is the only person who says that what he did by killing the coyote was a good thing. This was a hint that he agreed that ending the life of one who is suffering is a good option. This also can be interpreted in that if the main character killed the coyote to end its misery his misery should be ended as well (his son who died). Pretty crazy stuff tho.


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